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if we have the money i want to see it spent on players who are proven in the prem its much more of a gamble with young foreign players as many of them fail to adapt with the players i mentioned you know what you are getting |
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Player of the month awards don't really mean anything and whilst it's nice that he kept West Ham up last season they key point is that he's the best player on a perennially poor team which only serves to brighten his star.
Exactly what experience would Parker bring to Arsenal, a team who are in the Champions League every year? He's played 17 games in Europe in his career, less than half of those in the Champions League and those were 7 years ago, he's never represented England in a major tournament and you want this guy alongside Fabregas next time you go to the Nou Camp? |
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Adams - Failed miserably at biggest club in fucking scotland, the worst league in Europe, does brilliantly at smallest club in prem Keane - Ripped apart the prem at Spuds, failed miserably at LFC Henry - Failed miserably in Italy, ripped apart prem Shevchenko - Ripped apart Italy, failed miserably in prem Mascerano - Best DM in prem, captain of Argentina, can't get off the bench at Barca There is no correlation between how a player does in the prem and where they came from. Jesus Christ, stop getting your football advice from the backpage of the sun |
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Parker wouldn't be a squad player or solve any of your problems because Wenger would never sign a player like him, the reason being, Wenger is a progressive, innovative and shrewd manager who has transformed the entire philosophy of your football club...and he didn't do that by signing 30yr old no-marks with no European or International credibility.
Arsenal fans do an incommensurate amount of whining compared to the achievements of your recent past, the reason you haven't been spending money on players is because you built a 500M stadium and Wenger came up with the progressive, innovative and shrewd idea of ACTUALLY PAYING FOR THE FUCKING THING instead of taking the risk of going broke if he failed to secure Champions League football for just one season. Arsenal are one of the very few teams in the top European divisions that actually runs at a profit, and due to how well they've been managed, on the field and off, they have as secure a future as any team you could name, so if all the Arsenal boo-boys could stop complaining for a couple more years they may begin to see it's a lot better being them than another Newcastle or Leeds. Christ, Man City and Chelsea were both on their knees before they got bailed out by billionaires, at least you'll have the satisfaction of knowing that your team has earned every penny and every success that your future doubtless holds. And what you've earned above all is the right to laugh at the idea of signing someone as fundamentally incompatible as Scott Parker just to appease a very vocal minority of supporters that seem to have extremely short memories. You cunt. |
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the same is true for every big club, everyone will be looking to impove their squad in the summer thats standard we obv wont be able to compete with the likes of city, chelsea and real madrid so you have to get who is available we have been linked with the players i mentioned and there is a decent chance some of these transfers will happen. adam is the most likely imo you can argue those 3 players are shit but both adam and parker have had very good seasons. they could easily continue that form or impove if they signed for us. i dont think you can write them off that easily. |
Way over hello theres head old boy. He only knows what the telly can tell him.
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While I agree Wenger is "progressive, innovative and shrewd manager ". He is also a stubborn cunt, who I believe has completely lost the plot. When he comes out time after time talking about mental strength, belief, I cringe because we don't have any of that. I think he was very lucky to inherit such a good back four when he came in. He called our current squad the best squad he has ever had, that is complete bullshit. His tactics are sub par as well and team selection at times is just mind boggling. I remember when we faced Chelsea in the FA Cup semi couple years back and three first team starters were on the bench. Now onto the stadium. We were told we moved stadiums to compete in the transfer market and become a "European super club" and it wouldn't affect our transfer dealings. Now Arsenal fans pay the highest ticket prices in Europe and there is absolutely no atmosphere in the ground what so ever. We sell our top players and don't ever replace them. Vieira being the biggest one imo. Were told there is money to spend but Wenger is so stubborn he doesn't want to spend money on the most obvious problems like a goal keeper (loluminia) or a big strong CB (lol sylvestre). The board are content with a top four finish and charging the most money they can to fans. |
Jack, the reason Liverpool need 3-4 players every season is because you sign the wrong fucking players, every fucking season.
You do not 'have to buy who is available' you can invest in your youth team, produce talent instead of poach it and Liverpool has a rich history of exactly that. The lack of a multi-year plan has had a negative and cumulative effect. Also, I think your real problems are going to be with Andy Carroll, he's a thug with a double-digit IQ and has yet to play a full season in the top division. Ironic considering your want for proven Premiership players. |
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city have united in the fa cup semi while spurs are still in the champions league so they have trophies to think about along with 4th. if the next few results go our way we could still get into the mix for thats all i am saying it may be a pipedream but there have been way more shocking comebacks than this over the years lets wait and see 2) on the whole i still think it is more difficult for a player to adapt to playing in a foreign country, than it is for a player moving to a different club in the same league. if you move to a country where you dont speak the language and the style of play is different to what you are used to then it stands to reason it will take time to settle in. plus you have also got homesickness and difficulty getting used to weather. never mind your 10 examples, obv there are exceptions but generally speaking that is how it goes. its expected when you sign a player from overseas they will take time to settle in. |
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you are right about the youth team we havent produced anyone in a while as academy players were not given much of a chance. that seems to be changing under kenny. martin kelly has had a run this year and was playing well until he got injured. a few others have also been involved. the youth team at the moment is looking good and there are a few in there who may manage to break through the jury is still out on carrol but i do see potential for him playing alongside suarez. i think they could prove to be a very dangerous partnership. |
Arsenal fans will be paying higher prices for their tickets next season, not 'now', and football ticket prices are relative to the economies of the countries that the clubs reside in.
The price rise is 4% and it's for season ticket holders only, it's supply and demand and 'real' supporters crying about being priced out of football has been happening for decades. Even so, there is absolutely no way that it will cost more to go to the Emirates next season than the Nou Camp, Bernabau or San Siro. I don't think any of your arguments are your own, they can be read on any number of football forums and newspapers or heard on every football phone-in of the season. The shouts for Wengers resignation get more ludicrous annually, next thing you'll be telling me you need a good English manager because the players need more 'passion'. And you say he was lucky to inherit that back-4 15 years ago, are you out of your mind? How do you think those guys would do in modern European football? Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn scorching down the flanks, putting the fear of God into the great and good of Italian and Spanish football? They would get murdered, the game has moved on and Wenger moved with it, get on board. The retirement/transfer of those players (and Adams and Dixon) was the last thing that needed to happen before the club could get down to the serious task of learning to play the cultured and inventive brand of football that is demanded of continued success Each facet of the club has continued to evolve except for the supporters, you seem to forget what an absolute privilege it is to be an Arsenal fan, how fortunate you are to have a team that can legitimately contend in every competition it enters and has done so for the 15 years Wenger has been there. Everything you're saying is so tired and cliche and to have the front to complain about the atmosphere in a stadium that you've never visited shows how blinkered you are. |
johns so big that when he inhales he sucks all the oxygen out of the room and people start gasping for air thats why he has to order all his food delivery
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also mark sanchez is bust
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i will literally murder you
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pike you support arsenal right ?
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no i fucking don't jack
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he supports barnsley
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Arsenal fans will be paying higher prices for their tickets next season, not 'now', and football ticket prices are relative to the economies of the countries that the clubs reside in.
Last time i checked there was a recession. The price rise is 4% and it's for season ticket holders only, it's supply and demand and 'real' supporters crying about being priced out of football has been happening for decades. Still doesn't make it right. Price out the people who help build the club to what it is today. Even so, there is absolutely no way that it will cost more to go to the Emirates next season than the Nou Camp, Bernabau or San Siro. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...-day-seat.html I don't think any of your arguments are your own, they can be read on any number of football forums and newspapers or heard on every football phone-in of the season. The shouts for Wengers resignation get more ludicrous annually, next thing you'll be telling me you need a good English manager because the players need more 'passion'. Well I'm sorry that others share my opinion. And you say he was lucky to inherit that back-4 15 years ago, are you out of your mind? Uh yes, they were the greatest back four in the history of English football. How do you think those guys would do in modern European football? Steve Bould and Nigel Winterburn scorching down the flanks, putting the fear of God into the great and good of Italian and Spanish football? They would get murdered, the game has moved on and Wenger moved with it, get on board. The retirement/transfer of those players (and Adams and Dixon) was the last thing that needed to happen before the club could get down to the serious task of learning to play the cultured and inventive brand of football that is demanded of continued success They seemed to fair pretty well in Europe in the mid 90's making back to back Cup winners Cup's and beating Parma in the final. Now I understand the game changes but at least they knew what playing for the club meant and gave there all. I watch Denilson week in week out jog like it's a nice morning. As for continued success, I haven't seen it in the past six years each time the season goes to shit in March or April. Each facet of the club has continued to evolve except for the supporters, you seem to forget what an absolute privilege it is to be an Arsenal fan, how fortunate you are to have a team that can legitimately contend in every competition it enters and has done so for the 15 years Wenger has been there. I agree. Unfortunately, it's a results oriented business and the players we have don't cut it and haven't for the past six years. There are problems he can address but refuses to do so for god knows why. I'm not asking him to go and spend 200 million pounds on players. |
Steerpike, more like steerkike. amirite?
He supports Spurs. |
lol i think you are winding me up
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i think he supports ross county
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Others do not share your opinion, you share theirs. You are a follower and seem happy to be part of that mob mentality, in this place you are afforded the opportunity to loosen those shackles but the very fact I'm even answering someone who quotes the Daily Mail as source material means there is probably no hope for either of us.
They are a Fascist rag of a paper and not to be trusted. 'The most expensive normal seats at the Emirates Stadium - in the centre of the upper tier for 'category A' games against popular opponents - are £94 per person, plus a booking fee of up to £2.30 and £2.20 postage.' So it's not like it's going to be that price all that often and you will definitely pay more for 'category A' games in Spain and Italy, I know this because I have attended those games in the past. The Daily Mail has found the most expensive ticket Arsenal will sell next season and compared it to the cheapest one that another European team will sell. This is not 'category A' journalism. That Arsenal back four weren't even the best in England in 1996 when Wenger 'inherited' them, let alone in the history of English Football. Arsenal fared well in European football in the mid-90s because they were 'boring boring Arsenal' and tried to draw 0-0 away and win 1-0 at home, their attacking strategy was Seaman hoofing it upfield, Alan Smith heading it down and Ian Wright poking it home. However it was only the Cup Winners Cup and not comparable to the Champions League. You're complaining for the sake of complaining, about the atmosphere in a stadium you've never been to and the price of tickets you will never buy. Your idea of 'success' is based on winning trophies, the instant gratification which is so prevalent nowadays. Arsenal have lost in a few finals in the last 6 years, a game or two short of what you define as success, but success in modern football, in this results oriented business, is based on the long-term, this shit ain't Checkers it's Chess. You own your own stadium, you turn a profit every year, you will be there when others go bankrupt or their billionaire owners ditch them, has this six years been such a hardship to endure, knowing as you must that everything about your club's future is secure for decades to come? Arsenal have been one of the most successful European clubs of the last 20 years on the pitch but the last 6 years have been more integral to their continued success than the preceding 14. |
also i hate spurs more than any other team and we did the double over them this season
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LOL @ bitching about the pricing out of regular fans. The closest you've been to london is inland empire. The only Arsenal ticket prices you need to be concerned about are the ones for the C.D. Guadalajara friendly in the rose bowl this summer.
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keane and shevchenko were both signed in similar circumstances. the manager didnt want to sign these players. keane got off to a bad start, rafa didnt have confidence in him and his performances suffered due to this. also its rumoured keane had a bad attitude which led to his quick departure shevchenko counldnt adjust to english football and chelseas system didnt suit him. also mourinho never wanted to sign him and again his confidence suffered as he knew he wasnt wanted as for henry being a massive failure in italy i think thats some way off the mark. he only spent one season there and he was being played out of position on the wing. wenger signed him and played him up front like he did when they were together at monaco. still it took henry a good 6 months to find his form and then the rest is history mascherano is trying to get into the best midfield in the world right now. saying he isnt a first choice at barca proves nothing not sure why you included him in your list i dont know to much about what happend to adam at rangers i see the point you are trying to make but its just not true "There is no correlation between how a player does in the prem and where they came from." look at how many players from south america have failed to adapt in the prem. in south america players get much more time on the ball than over here. that is why so many south americans prefer to play in spain or italy as the style of football is more similar also players from countries such as germany or holland tend to do well over here as the style of football is more similar to the prem |
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