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Old 05-30-2012, 05:17 AM   #1
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Default Announcement: my new PM policy.

From now on, any PM that is sent to me will be posted on the main notice board with my reply.

Don't be Catholic. If you're doing something you have a problem with others knowing about, stop doing it. Or don't. But from now on, if I reply to something sent to me via PM, your private message will be quoted and posted publicly.

This is sane. Private Messaging is insane. Fuck your dumb Toddler reservations, secrecy, confidentiality, non-disclosure and deceit.

Time for transparency. It's time for you to grow up.

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Old 05-30-2012, 05:38 AM   #2
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How about a compromise? anything said between us is open to everyone that is an active skatz member or something? I don't mind talking amongst friends and people who actually give a damn and know what's what, but airing things out for lurkers and randoms....not my cup of tea. I don't like it at all.

You have not made a single logical argument. You've merely expressed how you FEEL.

No one cares about your dumb shit but you. And anyone that did care couldn't possibly be important enough to care about.

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Some of the things you have said I have been turning into a book. I haven't started writing it yet, I spent several days laying the groundworlk for it as well as conceptualizing the world it's set in and all of that. It's quite compelling really, I would love to get feedback on my ideas actually. if not here and not ist, perhaps a new social club or something? I just HATE the idea of chatting about personal things someplace where anyone can be lurking and saving, for whatever their reasons. ugh

Why wouldn't I want lurkers to be saving the things I say?

I do not believe in intellectual property. If I had it my way, everything I said would be copied and used.

You need to be sane, of course. My story about Mai is 100% truth (so far). The only thing preventing me from proceeding is my disinclination with polluting it by including literary techniques and dialogue that never occurred; i.e. fiction. I want vassals to read it and vassals need to read it, but I'm not sure I like pandering to their vassal limitations. Ideally, someone else would write it and then fiction could be more easily introduced.

But you wouldn't cut and paste the story as being about you, unless it's true.

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Old 05-31-2012, 02:43 AM   #3
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You have not made a single logical argument. You've merely expressed how you FEEL.

No one cares about your dumb shit but you. And anyone that did care couldn't possibly be important enough to care about.



Why wouldn't I want lurkers to be saving the things I say?

I do not believe in intellectual property. If I had it my way, everything I said would be copied and used.

You need to be sane, of course. My story about Mai is 100% truth (so far). The only thing preventing me from proceeding is my disinclination with polluting it by including literary techniques and dialogue that never occurred; i.e. fiction. I want vassals to read it and vassals need to read it, but I'm not sure I like pandering to their vassal limitations. Ideally, someone else would write it and then fiction could be more easily introduced.

But you wouldn't cut and paste the story as being about you, unless it's true.

#suckingeggs

The problem with lurkers is that they have nothing invested into the conversation. What they are doing is essentially eavesdropping, which is rude. It's sick to lurk a forum you don't post on in my opinion, if you like the people and what's being discussed why not join in the fun? It's either because the people reading are really just spying on us or they are too timid to actually put their neck on the chopping block and see where the ax falls. I put in a lot of time and effort to become somewhat respected here, it seems cheap IMO to deliver personal shit like what's discussed via PM to a bunch of unknown randoms.
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:55 AM   #4
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The problem with lurkers is that they have nothing invested into the conversation. What they are doing is essentially eavesdropping, which is rude.

That's not a logical argument and it's not even a sane sentiment. If it were up to me, the entire world would eavesdrop on the things I say.

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It's sick to lurk a forum you don't post on in my opinion, if you like the people and what's being discussed why not join in the fun?

You're not making an argument. You're just expressing how you FEEL. Who gives a fuck why they don't join in? They would have their reasons. Why would you attempt to coerce them into transmitting if all they're comfortable with doing is receiving? 99% of the world simply transmits without the intent or capacity to receive. I know which one is more sane, and you've been on the wrong side of that distinction for awhile now.

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It's either because the people reading are really just spying on us

What is this narcissistic delusional paranoia? You think people are interested in spying on you? Are you a covert operative? Listen to yourself.

No one cares about your dumb shit but you.

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or they are too timid to actually put their neck on the chopping block and see where the ax falls.

So? You would blockade their access to building up the confidence and ability to contribute, by virtue of their unwillingness to -fail- to contribute? That's a ridiculous position.

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I put in a lot of time and effort to become somewhat respected here

If you respected yourSelf, you wouldn't yearn for the R.E.S.P.E.C.T. of relative strangers on an Internet message board.

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it seems cheap IMO to deliver personal shit like what's discussed via PM to a bunch of unknown randoms.

It is very 'Selfish' to want to isolate my brilliant advice for your own exclusive benefit. I'm not sure where you got the idea we were "discussing" anything. There is nothing you can -teach- me. The benefits were flowing in one direction, and it's too limited to be acceptable. This world has a lot of people like you.

Why wouldn't you want them to be assisted, too?
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Old 05-31-2012, 05:23 AM   #5
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That's not a logical argument and it's not even a sane sentiment. If it were up to me, the entire world would eavesdrop on the things I say.

fwiw I agree, though let's be honest here, 2-3 billion would have killed themselves within a month, and then there's the issue of who will or won't listen in the first place...

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You're not making an argument. You're just expressing how you FEEL. Who gives a fuck why they don't join in? They would have their reasons. Why would you attempt to coerce them into transmitting if all they're comfortable with doing is receiving? 99% of the world simply transmits without the intent or capacity to receive. I know which one is more sane, and you've been on the wrong side of that distinction for awhile now.


I did make an argument, a very valid one. You are attempting to demean my position by acting like it isn't worth paying attention to. I do not like the idea of sharing personal thoughts and opinions on potentially sensitive matters (we are talking pm's in the first place) with absolute strangers. Admittedly your advice should be made available to more people, hmm...perhaps I am just being selfish afterall...still though sensitive is sensitive, not sure how to see that any other way. You are probably saying "stop sending me sensitive shit" and to that I suppose I will just continue to volley my emotional issues and let the chips fall where they may.

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What is this narcissistic delusional paranoia? You think people are interested in spying on you? Are you a covert operative? Listen to yourself.

Yes I am a covert operative, among other things. Trust me in my own delusional mind you would not believe how far from reality I get...


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So? You would blockade their access to building up the confidence and ability to contribute, by virtue of their unwillingness to -fail- to contribute? That's a ridiculous position.

Indeed...

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If you respected yourSelf, you wouldn't yearn for the R.E.S.P.E.C.T. of relative strangers on an Internet message board.

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It is very 'Selfish' to want to isolate my brilliant advice for your own exclusive benefit. I'm not sure where you got the idea we were "discussing" anything. There is nothing you can -teach- me. The benefits were flowing in one direction, and it's too limited to be acceptable. This world has a lot of people like you.

Why wouldn't you want them to be assisted, too?

WOW

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Old 05-31-2012, 11:06 AM   #6
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I did make an argument, a very valid one. You are attempting to demean my position by acting like it isn't worth paying attention to. I do not like the idea of sharing personal thoughts and opinions on potentially sensitive matters (we are talking pm's in the first place) with absolute strangers.

No. This is not an argument. You have yet to make a logical argument. You're only stating what you FEEL. Do I have to drag logic out of you?

You should be able to look at the above and instantly realise no logical argument has been made. If I have to spell it out for you:

1. Why do you not like the idea of sharing your personal thoughts? Are you embarrassed by your thoughts?

2. Why do you assert that your personal matters could be potentially sensitive? How so? Are you planning to change your history in the future and revision it or something?

No logical argument has been made yet, to justify your reservations. You just FEEL uncomfortable with the idea. Explain why, using LOGIC. Use hypothetical examples, if you have to.


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still though sensitive is sensitive, not sure how to see that any other way.



You cannot possibly write that sentence and not be alarmed by the ludicrous element of the circular fallacy. "The Bible is true." Proof? "The Bible said so."

3. Why do you FEEL your personal stuff is sensitive? Religion made you FEEL this way.

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You are probably saying "stop sending me sensitive shit" and to that I suppose I will just continue to volley my emotional issues and let the chips fall where they may.

No I don't give a fuck. I'm saying if you send me private shit which I bother to respond to, I will respond publicly. I don't send PMs. I respond to many, but not any more.

"And ye shall know the Truth, and the Vatican will look to clamp down on the leaks."
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Old 05-31-2012, 03:30 PM   #7
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The problem with lurkers is that they have nothing invested into the conversation. What they are doing is essentially eavesdropping, which is rude. It's sick to lurk a forum you don't post on in my opinion, if you like the people and what's being discussed why not join in the fun? It's either because the people reading are really just spying on us or they are too timid to actually put their neck on the chopping block and see where the ax falls. I put in a lot of time and effort to become somewhat respected here, it seems cheap IMO to deliver personal shit like what's discussed via PM to a bunch of unknown randoms.

Honestly man, you don't want most lurkers chiming in.... You should never assume most people have an opinion that is worth hearing. Few do.

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Old 05-31-2012, 05:19 PM   #8
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Now that i have had a child i want more. i want a son. It is a selfish desire that someone without offspring they have cared for could not possibly understand. I believe the root of these desires to be biological to help propagate the species. Similar to getting hungry when you need food. Maybe food is not logical. Maybe life is not logical. Maybe it is.

I raised my siblings. I understand more than you'd think. But there needs to be a transaction element that can be clearly identifiable.

And I don't buy this biological bullshit one bit, because if you and your wife had a baby boy and the boy was swapped over by stoner or otherwise demented housewives without your realising it, you would feel the identical way as you'd have felt if the child had not been switched.

Meaning, your argument against adoption hasn't been made.
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he's sitting on three so far folks, let's see some magic.

and I haven't even asked him about jesse yet....fuck. I really really.....fuck

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Honestly man, you don't want most lurkers chiming in.... You should never assume most people have an opinion that is worth hearing. Few do.

Everyone has an opinion worth hearing once, no matter how ludicrous or incorrect.

No one has an opinion worth hearing twice, if it is incorrect.

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