good lord.
Originally Posted by Apes of Wrath
As per last pm, which was cut off, I intend to speak with my pastor, soon, regarding faith and the bible, your perspective and challenges etc
I want to speak with him for the following reason (primarily): I don't want to botch my only shot at life with potentially eternal consequences. I think this is logical (if not completely sane I admit)
You're an idiot.
And no, that is as logical as taking a blunt cheese-grater to your testicles. Just because it's not as sharp doesn't mean doing it "makes sense".
FYI logic = sanity. They're synonymous. You cannot be sane without logic. You can't do logic when you're insane.
It's probably 30 years of brainwashing on many levels, but for some reason I have this niggling little bit of doubt deep down saying what if I'm wrong etc etc
You're an idiot.
So, how can I be sure? i'lll go to the source.
You're an idiot.
My former pastor is a good dude, very nice, intelligent, all that. I rather liked his service.
You're an idiot.
But it's pretty hard to be a sociopathic blood-sucking leech lying to imbeciles non-stop if they don't like you. It's possible, my friends seemed to pull it off for many years, but it's very hard because most people have a big sob sob teary at friends who are mean to them.
I would just take all their criticism on board as valued insight given in the spirit of friends trying to make me a better person.
That was a mistake.
So my gameplan is this- speak with him privately, let him know my concerns (chiefly the inconsistencies of logic in the bible, the lack of respect for women, the violence, how can God not know simple physics and such you get the general idea) and see how he "overlooks" all of this and continues to live a religious pious life?
You're an idiot.
Do you really think you'll be the first person who's ever pointed the Bible out to him?
Does he really believe heart and soul that christianity is genuine and real? If he does, HOW?
You're an idiot.
x 2
That's how.
I want to get your opinion here because I feel strongly that, like when I was first talkiing to you, I am going to get a bit overwhelmed and painted into a corner.
Yeah because you're a moron who's going in there with an open mind to insanity. You do not ask Evil pretending to be Good how they live with themselves. They're going to have answers for you. Or if it was me, they'd have weapons. This isn't a fucking game, you imbecile.
You're his prey. You should know what you're doing before you try to turn the tables on him. He'll just eat you alive if you go in there 'armed' with this kind of idiocy.
I can always fight my way out
That's what the guys who didn't fight their way out said.
but really it's tough to be a middle of the roader and go on the offensive with an expert hardliner to one side or the other. First I took you on and was humbled, I can see him doing the same thing.
You fucking moron. I was working with Truth, really obvious Truth. He is working with Lies, really dumb Lies. He will not humble you unless you humble yourself. You need to understand the implications of what you're STUPIDLY doing. You will lose, or you will win. If you win, you will lose. Do you understand?
What is your motive for being this ridiculous?
for some reason I have this niggling little bit of doubt deep down saying what if I'm wrong etc etc
I don't want to botch my only shot at life with potentially eternal consequences.
pfft. You're going to lose.
You're botching your only shot at life with your stupidity. Imagine that for all of ETERNITY. Cringing for ever? *shiver*
Most likely he will recite scripture or something idiotic, I do not want to let this happen. I want an intelligent logical mature conversation.
Yes. I would like something similar. I'm looking straight at you.
And you may dictate the rules, what do I say and when? What do I ask, what should I watch out for? What logic can I use, what questions do I avoid?
Questions to avoid? What with wrong with you? Do you understand what Truth is? Truth doesn't have anything to hide. There are no logical traps for Truth. Nothing to avoid. No pitfalls. You go in there with this kind of an attitude...?
If it was me, I would be watching for the gun.
I could use ALL the logic.
I would try and avoid dying. These people aren't playing. ROFL. You think destroying the lives of imbeciles is a game to them?
Maybe you should get sane first.
If you spend some time getting me ready I will follow through and record what transpires. Should be interesting, to say the least. I would absolutely share on skatz, this is incredibly inteteresting IMO.
It would be as interesting as loud fart. Or a very quiet one.
I sent you the link to my former church, where pastor mike mcclure gives his sermons, any of the recorded sermons you can listen to, have a look at the guy for yourself, tell me what you think please.
I don't need to. He's a pastor. I can connect that dot to the dot that says LOL @ YOU if you are not
getting what I'm telling you.
He's read the Bible before.
Arguing with a Christian?
God I literally wish I was you. If I found that fun, I'd have been the happiest white nigger alive since I was 5.