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Old 01-28-2012, 01:48 AM   #81
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Who is the one keeping JV aka scooter from going to the doctor and getting the correct medication.




Repeat. Forces are coming together preventing JV from the medical help he deserves.

This is literally what I've been saying - quite audibly - for a substantive period of time now.

I know exactly who's getting in the way of me and my medication. They're not physicians. I know this, because I make a point of not calling them "Doctor" and they bristle, every time.

You see, a physician couldn't care less what you call him. So long as you call him when you're sick. He won't be impressed if you want him to make you sick, when you're well. That's not how the Hippocrats did things.

For that, just so you don't bother a physician next time, I can tell you who you need to see for that problem you have with health. The one where you're healthy and not happy. And need to be exploited, for it.



For $1150 / hr I would hire a secretary who could use a phone and perform basic secretarial functions, as well.

Heck, I might even hire one who could perform superfluous functions; if you know what I mean. wink wink. Short skirts. And some rudimentary proficiency in grammatical things. You could be forgiven for thinking this is a level, and not even a very good one.

But if it is a level, it's too subtle not to be brilliant. Or you don't know the first fucking thing about the entire guild of criminal shysters.

But I'm just a tin-hat wearing crackpot, quoting unreliable sources like the American Medical Association (the journal of which finally relented to mounting evidence of their corruption in denying the charges leveled at them and refuted by Big Pharma for 25 years; the AMA conceded irrefutable proof of criminal culpability & active involvement of any and all psychiatrists - who are provably guilty of routine fraud and even murder (ongoing - their fraud & exploitation of you, is ongoing). But how could you care about your best interests. Yawn.

These crooks are not physicians. They couldn't clear up an STD with penicillin and broad-spectrum antibiotics. Not with the SSRIs they'll shove at you when you go in there curious as to why they'd place themselves between you and restful sleep - and come out too horrified to breathe. But if you're stupid enough to elicit their medical 'expertise' you could die.

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"True drug effects (an advantage of ADM over placebo) were nonexistent to negligible among depressed patients with mild, moderate, and even severe baseline symptoms..."
"Prescribers, policy makers, and consumers may not be aware that the efficacy of medications largely has been established on the basis of studies that have included only those individuals with more severe forms of depression <<excluded 99% of the data relevant to 99% of the market which was shown the fraudulent data>>.

This important feature of the evidence base is not reflected in the implicit messages present in the marketing of these medications to clinicians and the public. There is little mention of the fact that efficacy data often come from studies that exclude precisely those MDD patients who derive little specific pharmacological benefit from taking medications.

Pending findings contrary to those reported here and those obtained [in previous studies] by Kirsch et al and Khan et al, efforts should be made to clarify to clinicians and prospective patients that...there is little evidence to suggest that they produce specific pharmacological benefit for the majority of patients," the authors conclude.

Literally, they kill people - they murdered people who brought this scandal to the attention of the news media; who - having been shown the reality of what they already knew (Kirsch, Khan and the dead physicians et al) - all start asking the most peculiar in their articles covering the JAMA admission of guilt.

"New questions have been raised..."

"The interesting debate over SSRIs efficacy has swung to the side of those who argue they're less effective than previously believed..."


"Are SSRIs more placebo than previously thought?"


They raise the question, partly answered by the study they're referencing. The only part that isn't entirely clear is whether it's manslaughter or first degree for the deaths of anyone who's been killed by their 'placebo'. And why the police aren't arresting them all on serious criminal charges? We need to clean house. Across the globe.

If you cannot understand the time-frames involved here, you're too stupid to live.

It's why you'll be kept alive for a very long time.

You're being exploited by everyone. Literally everyone you listen to, read, watch or think about - is exploiting you.

Except...the guy who has zero interest in you, really. No, really. I'm not Avril. I could care whether you lived or died, but then not if you don't - I won't. I have no motive, to exploit you; but then that doesn't mean I couldn't exploit you in ways they can only dream about. I really could do that shit. It sure seems to me that you should listen to what I'm saying:

I'm saying, that you need to start thinking again.

Their business is in pain. They have a motive to generate pain, because you gave them the power to control the pain relief. Too stupid to realise once the junkies you stupidly don't realise represent you, are dead; they're not going to - retire.

Are they? How could they, in good conscience. They're the only guys with the ability to prescribe pain relievers, responsibly.

This should be an unfortunate position to take, when they're simultaneously claiming that you cannot be 'entrusted' with your own welfare. It's so insulting you should kill them. I'm serious. They insult you like this, then they blockade / ban a FDA-approved medication, which physicians in the US have been giving to children for a very long time now. By all accounts, something of a 'wonder' drug, for the treatment of ADHD in children. No addiction, remarkably. No dependency, beyond standard tapering advised when discontinuing or alternating between meds etc.

As in, you won't - die - from sudden withdrawal from limited access to the vaults of Middle Men who are 'protecting' you from accessing your meds, prescribed by them to you - even when you could die from an incident out of your control, which you provide irrefutable evidence of. He said "No." I couldn't believe it. I've been shaking my head in shock for years. After the horror of a Xanax shock withdrawal which I'd rather just forget. Dependent on 6mg / day, prescribed by registered psychiatrists. If I died, it would not have been from dependency to a poison; this would have been murder. He said "No". Motive? Fuck knows. He suggested he didn't like my disrespectful tone. He demanded a degree of deference, which I afforded him through the pain of clenched teeth that was my feeling death incoming whilst my would-be murderer demanded a better curtsey. This legitimately happened, in a 1st-world country (NZ). I'm not sure why I haven't killed him yet, but then I could say the same thing about so many things which breathe and really - shouldn't - be ethically afforded the luxury of continuing to do that, should they? Should you?

Does the doctor know ALL?

I'm yet to see any evidence of their knowing best, excluding some Desoxyn-prescribing physicians in an obscure 3rd world nation bordering Mexico's northern border - I forget the name.

They're legit, though. Legitimately too creepy to be plausible. You think this is a game? Ask them why they know 100% of knowledge. Ask them why they're confused by what you mean, and bring a dictionary to show them what "monopoly" means. Ask them why they would be frightened of your ability to adjudicate between them and a random off the street? Suggest to them that they are being insulting, unless they have something to hide - knowing the random off the street is a better option? Suggest to them that they're insulting you by being terrified of competition. Demand to know why they are frightened of their - capacity, or incapacity - to compete for your custom? Demand to know why you shouldn't respond, proportionately - if they refuse to respond to cordiality.

I will come visit you in your hospital of caring. I promise. If I forget, I will send an apology card every time. I swear to God.

You better do something about your own interests soon, or I might go 'crazy' or something. You think you can game your own best interests on this one, whilst 'sacrificing' humanity's? You cannot possibly be that stupid. You need to either counter, refute or get appropriately angry / active. There are no other (sane) options. Get angry, or run & go get your Mommy.

Yes, the bad guys are scary. They're mildly afraid of me. Ignore the bad guys. You don't want to be mildly afraid of me. They are power you cannot comprehend, and they're not impressed. They don't realise I'm on their side. But they'll kill me if I push them into a corner. You, I imagine - you might struggle to match their capacity to apply power from the corners you hide your denial in.

If you're confused, Google "Desoxyn FDA" and then Google "meth deaths".

And then, kindly tell me why I should leave you alive. I'm a reasonable human, but then only with humans who have reasonable fears. I'm not very good with apathy, it can make me homicidal. I really should see someone about that, actually.

What's your schedule looking like?
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:32 AM   #82
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you could substitute assumes, if you'd prefer. Or you could substitute the entire text of Beyond Freedom and Dignity, that's probably more your style.

But "assumes" and "presumes" have nothing to do with my hypothesis. I'm arguing it's a provable conspiracy. Not a curious error of judgement borne out of Biblical 'confusion' relating to basic logic.

I'm afraid I cannot accept 'assumes' or 'presumes'. It's far more serious and creepy than a mere 'confused' misconception or something silly. It's a species-wide conspiracy.

I been chatting on YouTube with people lately. Don't laugh. I get censored everywhere else. Also, people are smarter than I thought. But christ, suggest something like "Dubya lied to Americans in order to kill 50,000 of them. (Ref: the CIA, 10 yrs after being complicit in denying French assertions that Dubya was lying to Americans to kill them - Dubya put his interest ahead of the national interest of 50,000 - dead - Americans, who would not have died had he not lied brazenly after taking an oath saying other stuff. What are the definitions of TREASON and TRAITOR? Is there something I'm missing here?"

And people just freeze up. YouTube did this, but in YouTube's defence, I was being unforgivably insightful that day, on all kinds of things. And I was bringing people around. I couldn't believe it either. People were understanding logic, which they'd never considered before in their lives.



They'd never heard logic before. Have you? It's pretty powerful. It speaks to you. You cannot refute it. It's impossibly unambiguous. It's the enemy of Lies and Darkness. it is the Light of Truth and Understanding.

On YouTube I found out the most fascinating thing. Literally the entire world doesn't understand that they can't remember their impressionable years. They all seem to think they know human nature and stuff. That's funny. They don't realise they don't know the first thing about humans or what is in our nature. We are a product of nature of course, so they - know - a great deal more about everything, instantly.

It comes flooding back, when they're face-to-face with logic.

It's a beautiful thing.
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Old 01-28-2012, 04:48 AM   #83
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But "assumes" and "presumes" have nothing to do with my hypothesis.

Well, I wasn't talking about your hypothesis really, just the legal definition of insanity to begin with. You have an axe to grind and are looking to assign some blame. I think blame assignment is rather Mu, and I think the root assumption that one has to have in order to play the insanity defense card, IE the free will exists, is the important thing (Well, the assumption that Right and Wrong exist in an objectively knowable way is also important, but that's a different tangent)

But if you question the free will assertation, you're threatening a great many things in Western culture, the insanity defense being merely the tip of that particular snow nigger.

I wasn't trying to attack your hypothesis, or even really address it. I was just nutshelling gamble bot's post.
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You have an axe to grind and are looking to assign some blame. I think blame assignment is rather Mu, and I think the root assumption that one has to have in order to play the insanity defense card, IE the free will exists, is the important thing

But if you question the free will assertation, you're threatening a great many things in Western culture, the insanity defense being merely the tip of that particular snow nigger.

I am not in the dock. Law is in the dock. I am saying it should be found Guilty. Blame is for niggers, who want to remain niggers.

I'm saying the "insanity defence card" is being played by those who write Laws to assert that you can be simultaneously sane and murder, assault, rape, exploit, get 'revenge' (not to be confused with protection), molest etc. They want you to believe that all these things could possibly be in your best interests; when the provable obvious fact is they will never - ever - be. ergo, they are the definition of "insanity".

But children are not taught this. They're 'taught' not to do these things, because they're 'naughty' (like sex). And like sex, everyone is surprised - gosh! - when children try to be grown up before they've...grown up.

I can't possibly imagine a motive, though. To make little boys want to fight and kill. And little girls want to fuck. If only I could solve this last piece of the puzzle...
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While I don't believe in original sin, in any kind of religious sense, I don't think it's the natural state of man to be a kind, loving, selfless, gentle creature, and that we some how need to be manipulated into being sex crazed, cruel, petty, violent and murderous. I think in it's natural state, the greatest of apes is a violent, revenge seeking, rapey creature. That we've put on airs in this eye blink of modern life, and most of us have learned to suppress those urges for the sake of higher pursuits, doesn't mean those urges have been bred out of us. And it shouldn't be any surprise that some of the apes ability to suppress is faultier than others.

So, it comes back to the insanity defense, and free will. I am not some sort of hard determinist, but I do believe much of human behavior is not the product of rational decision making, but rather based on urges and compulsions that are beyond a person's conscious control. And much of it is predictable product of environmental conditioning beyond an individual's control. But, if we acknowledge that human behavior is governed by things out of their control, by their environment, their dna, the chemical balances and imbalances, that puts in to question our entire legal system, educational system, and most importantly, a religious system. America is going to have to throw the monkey of Christianity off it's back before it can deal with crime in any sensible way. At the heart of most of america's kooky protestantim, is they idea that you accept JC as your personal lord and savior, and by that choice you are saved (and other people choice to reject him and are damned). This myth requires completely unfettered free will, and if you question free will, you question the most basic of these people's beliefs.

So, if you accept unfettered free will, you can have a punishment based legal system, and you are forced into doing semantical dances about what "insanity" is. And while people who are actually in the legal game like Gamble have come to realize how little free will has to do with criminality, they are light years ahead of the average american, who just wants scary niggers off their streets ( and who can blame them?).

Northern Europe, who has come a lot further in their casting off of Protestantism's baggage, has a much more realistic outlook on human behavior and the causes of crime and is much closer to gamble's model of treating crime with drugs and therapy.

As a great writer, I think you give too much power to narrative in shaping human behavior. I think most of human behavior is shaped at a much lower brain level than the frontal lobe, which is narrative's domain.

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I wonder if there is software to do this. Scooter make a podcast.

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I finally found my MBA, or remembered I had one when I was thinking "Why the fuck am I using Windows." We're operating on a fairly advanced plane over here.

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Punishment is created as deterrent and not as a method of 'getting even'.

You cannot simply state nonsense and then repeat it once the assertion has been disproved. What's this one-horse-town school of yours teaching children these days. I even used shitty graphs in full colour. Gosh.

Punishment as a deterrent will never be effective for the simple reason that crime is the result of confusion, emotional turmoil and ignorance. Punishment would not be required in a Pavlovian world where humans salivated at a bell announcing happiness was incoming. There would be no crime to punish But we do not live in such a world. They corrupted parents who corrupt children when they're at their most impressionable. The result?

Punishment does not work as a deterrent for crime, and it never will because crime is the result of confusion, emotional turmoil and ignorance. You think stalkers (by my definition, "anyone attempting to establish a link between themselves and a romantic interest" - of which there are billions in this world, and no one wants to talk about it) are capable of thinking about the consequences of their actions?

They've lost their minds. Temporarily; which is another way of saying they're insane "but only when requisite variables are involved". Or they're sane, but fingers crossed they don't get stressed in their lifetimes.

When you are incapable of weighing up the pros and cons of your actions; when you are "living in the moment" and incapable of objective rationalisation and pragmatic realistic analysis; when you are incapable of acting in your own best interests - you are, by definition, insane.

This does not mean you aren't capable of appearing sane. But we descend into paradox quickly because all the fucking definitions are bullshit except mine. "But who decides what's in the best interests of each person?"

The judge! As he is presently asserting now; when he rejects insanity pleas using the logic that it can be in your best interests to kill, rape*, slice open a stranger's face with a glass in a nightclub, molest and so on. "All very naughty, naughty! Okay bad boys, don't do these macho things unless you like your chances of evading donut-eating police!"

There are some other reasons not to do those things. They're fucking insane. It's all con and no pro.

But Society keeps on with this punishment strategy to preclude crime. It's a logical fail which has failed in practice for a thousand years but it's due to come good any day now?

Don't be frightened of paradox, I'm here to guide you. Stay sharp, you dimwit. You will never appear sane to a sane person, if you cannot act in your own best interests. You will appear to be insane to an insane person, if you don't submit to their attempt to control or manipulate you - insane people want to bend the entire world to their will, starting with their family and friends.

And when they run into resistance, they're incapable of understanding why. Why can't their children understand that they only want what's best for them. Why can't their children just listen to them. Knuckle down. Work hard. Live in pain. Acquire valuable skills at the expense of torturous pain. Learn to play the violin. Learn four languages. Play dangerous contact sports. These are the important things for happiness down the line!

How far down the line? Children are 23-24(?) when they finish their run - please remember, we're talking about controlling parents here who make their kids into desperately miserable winners, i.e. not you. 12 years of school, with various lessons, homework every night. Chores and errands and helping with the family weed-eradication business. Then 3 years undergrad, 4 with honour. Another 2-3 postgrad. Let's make it a clean 20 years of INVESTING PAIN, for the return of HAPPINESS. Oh the numbers add up!

You know how miserable this world is? You have no idea. Yes, you do. Stop lying to yourself.

NAME ME ONE PERSON WHO IS TRULY HAPPY. Go.

OR TELL ME WHAT HAPPINESS LOOKS LIKE. Go.
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