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Old 04-06-2012, 07:10 AM   #1
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I think it's great that VISA took care to trademark their innovative security measure. Imagine if they forgot! MasterCard could steal it and start up their own "Verified by VISA(tm)" campaigns. Then all hell would break loose.

Intellectual and slogan copyright breaches aren't to be sneered at, you know. If I have an idea, no one else is - permitted - to even think the same thing, for the rest of all of human history. I had it first. It's mine, even if the second guy had never heard of me; even if I was the second guy and the first guy sneered at filthy faggotry like intellectual copyright laws. You understand?

Snicker. You understand literally nothing. Let me teach you about Verified by VISA and why you should verify your VISA, STAT!

VISA could lose your credit cards, that's why.



1.5 million people were unlucky this week. How - exactly - I'm not as certain. Why wouldn't VISA be unlucky? Why was this even fucking news. Were you concerned your card/s were one of the 1.5 million? If you were concerned that maybe 16% personal interest rates which pays for your Zero Liability weren't high enough, then maybe you should have Verified your VISA? VISA fucking warned you, already. Jesus Christ.



Would you like to change your personal greeting? Go on, talk to yourself. Say something funny like "howdy pardner". What a riot..!

Some people say the credit card system is broken. I beg to differ. I remember the week everyone was getting their knickers in a twist over VISA and MasterCard joining the government-led offensive against the villains who gave “the people” information the government of “the people” wanted to keep secret – I gnashed my teeth at those WikiLeaks traitors. Heaven forbid, if you don't follow the rules, all peace could break loose!?

Still, rules are rules. This was the position of many of my friends, and WikiLeaks broke the rules. It’s important to obey the law, except when the law is against the law (as the law pointed out, helpfully, at Nuremberg).

Still, might is right (as might believes, when it is wrong and cannot make the case, otherwise). That’s why it’s dangerous to be right when power is wrong; why would power listen? Power watches its own back, and never debates nor is required to even make a convincing argument – what Power wants, IS the convincing argument! – and this is very unfortunate for Power.

Because Power doesn’t follow me on Twitter, one of my first tweets was celebrating the fact that I might not be able to support WikiLeaks with my money; but I could still use my credit cards to support the ingenious mass email marketers who deliver non-stop limited-time offers to my Junk email Inbox.



You can’t support WikiLeaks but that’s one (1) merchant. You can support Spam just fine (that’s thousands of merchants). It’s about perspective. My perspective was all wrong. A personal email from an unknown friend alerted me to the fact that I did not have enough ham to fill my girlfriend’s ham-pocket. I panicked, but thankfully – as it turns out – those who brought me this information had ham for sale. What serendipity!

Might I suggest you Verify your VISA? This way, you can support 99% of all merchants in real-time. You don’t want delays when you are accepting the FREE MONEY! online casinos want to give you. They just need a deposit, to prove that your children and the pick-pocket who took your wallet can enter in 13 letters and 19 numbers printed on the card, accurately. You can be losing within minutes!

If you want to withdraw your own money after playing, maybe the next day, maybe four months down the line, then there are some security checks. This is for your safety (and convenience). They will not process your withdrawal until you give them proof of where your children sleep at night, and high resolution colour scans of your passport, so they can Verify with VISA that you are not a criminal fraudster who has been losing your (the real you’s) money for four months. You needn’t worry, unless you get frustrated at some point during the 18 months between your supplying this info and them not paying you. They are licensed by the website of the Seychelles Islands Gaming Commission (they will get an office, when they exist) where all disputes are subject to the laws of the island (they will get a judge, if they need one). Look, they’ve never needed one; but you could be the first to fly to Seychelles for justice and force them to stay in London or Montreal where their servers are. Try not to imagine them laughing at you standing in a Seychelles hut alone with a drunk judge who’s buttoned up his Hawaiian shirt for the big day.

Maybe they lose their licensing in Seychelles, maybe they never had any because there’s no way to verify who in Seychelles received a manila envelope with their application ‘papers’. But worst case scenario, you fly to Seychelles for holiday, they keep your money and ‘move’ licensing to Malta Lotteries & Gaming Commission (a subsidiary of the UK Gambling Commission, and regulated by the EU).

All of this is for your safety, I explained to The Malta Times & to The Guardian (with screenshots of the relevant Acts of British Parliament and Malta and the legislation signed into European ‘law’ by those jokers in Belgium; every “responsible gambling” and “anti-fraud” law being breached, by literally everyone - except the VISA customers / victims). The EU has a Commission to assess breaches, a Court of Justice to adjudicate and decide whether they agree with you or not. That’s about it, as I understand the situation. They can ask nicely? When they form a standing army, and get nuclear weapons then they can do more; but until then they’re limited to bullying bankrupt states like Greece who want high-austerity loans. Free movement of goods & services because all of Europe is equal, but of course some are more equal than others.

I had a point, I think. Oh yes, unless I was so drunk I imagined it, I showed The Malta Times and The Guardian how their respective monopoly regulatory bodies were so corrupted it was farcical, but I was sucking eggs. They knew this already. Which means The Guardian is corrupt, I thought. But I should have known that already. Either way, breaking the law is not newsworthy when you write the legislation. I have no excuse for not knowing this, I have read the Bible and Moses pointed this out, smashing God’s commandments on the ground in fury.

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He's allowed to break the Law, you fucking niggers. You die for a 'mistake', and it's a mistake to be dumber than a - really dumb - dog. Which you are.

Moses can break the Law because he wrote the Law. God is pragmatic, and forgiving. Mistakes happen. Revise and rewrite. Zero liability, basically. And God said, via his Middle Man Moses so what actually happened was Moses said that God told him that it wasn't no thang.

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Exodus 34:1 Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon these tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest.

So Moses was chillaxed, because God is literally cool. No problem homie! Are you God's homie.

No, you're not.

Whilst I was drunk and couldn't remember the chapter and verse (I do not use Google excepting emergencies) I found this little pearl. The Bible on Everything, and Other Writings. Written by God hisself but fucks me around because I forgot God was a nigger who forgot he wrote about this story already, in fucking Exodus. I was lost in Numbers. So fucking embarrassing, I could just die! There's no fucking Law in Numbers! Except of course, for the fact that the entire Bible is the literal Word of God, so that's kind of the Law when God wants to be. But it's Deuteronomy where God forgot about Exodus. Nigger has Alzheimer's. What are you going to do?

God's Wisdom # 2243 / 23409:

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Translated into English, that basically says that Miley Cyrus is a whore. This was my interpretation, in any case.

But yes, credit cards. Every online casino in Malta will Spam the globe's email accounts with their “FREE MONEY!” offers, and then make you jump a hurdle a 3 year old child can vault before they will give you fake chips to warm up with. Then they’ll steal your money, but if you want to lose it they are cool with that as well.

Maybe tomorrow, maybe in four months, maybe 15 deposits later you want one of your deposits back? And this is not something that occurs, often; obviously. But if you aren’t a gracious loser 100% of deposits, and instead press Withdraw, then they have some ‘hoops’ for you to jump through. Your card is Verified by VISA, and this is why they need notarised proof of address, passport and bank statements. Maybe they receive everything they need for identity theft, maybe they don’t; kindly send everything again? And again. One more time. Are you sure you don’t want to gamble in the meantime? They will wait on your getting them the docs, perhaps Google lost the emails? Thank you for your understanding. This is for your safety.

Remain cordial. They don’t have to pay you if you use colorful language. Read the fine print, which says – after 30 pages – that they can do absolutely anything they like, including – but not limited to – everything. If you don’t like the terms, you shouldn’t have deposited. This is a Polite Society for a reason.

Maybe you say “keep the money, you thieves” and then you will be embarrassed when you next go to buy more ham (for your girlfriend’s over-sized ham-pocket)? Or when you buy normal ham at Safeway. Credit card troubles. Happens to all of us, when we’re broke – or blacklisted by VISA’s online casinos.

Some people think the system is broken. I beg to differ. Maybe you pay for your penile extensions with cheques or money orders? I use Verified by VISA and MasterCard to get the secrets to extending my penis size INSTANTLY. I don’t mean to brag.

You won’t be able to support WikiLeaks, but why would you want to? Are they making penises bigger? I understand you can find a ‘way’ around the rules, buying Assange ‘gifts’ and things; but unless he can give me more ham STAT, my girlfriend is going to leave me for someone who can fill her ham-pocket. Perhaps, for Assange.

But if you want to shoot yourself in the foot, VISA and MasterCard are your best friends. Nothing is broken. The system is humming perfectly; as designed. There are dozens of innovative payment solutions for anyone who wants to mass email the world offers for FREE MONEY! and URGENT: Ham Deficiency Alert emails sponsored by Spam. And VISA. If you don’t like it, no one is forcing you to use credit cards. So what’s your problem?

It’s a free country, so long as you follow the rule. Might is ‘right’.

That probably wouldn't be as ridiculous as it's panned out, if only might were bright. But might isn't bright. Might isn't even intelligent enough to think more than a few chess moves in advance. Might is solid on “optimality” in a short term vacuum. But “sustainability”?

Might cannot act in might’s best interests. But you should go tell them that. I need my credit cards. Well no, I didn't have a girlfriend as it turned out. I was panicking for no reason. But I might find a girlfriend? And if I do, I will need my credit cards. A serious ham deficiency isn't likely to simply fix itself, is it?

But you probably pay for penis extensions with cheques or money orders. God helps those that help themselves, so God and I don't really have much time for you.
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6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died.

No water? What fucking pussies. Who gives a fuck if you have children who are thirsty. Don't complain. Jesus Christ.

True story.

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Old 04-06-2012, 07:28 AM   #2
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Actually Sonatine you know much about Root Certificates and that kind of faggotry? ubuntu still uses Firefox and Google and that means they use the cached Windows Root Certificate Store? I appreciate it doesn't make sense but then I'm not the one who isn't making sense; ubuntu seems to pull the Root Certificates for Firefox and Google out of a corrupted 'local' machine store. And Apple have no reason to prevent users from flashing firmware. And Pope Benedict is the Servant of Truth.

I pay for a great many non-functional services and appliances from this joke corrupted industry; and when I say I PAY for them I do not mean with filthy lucre. I mean, I PAY with this kind of insanity which, in the case of NetGear, has been going on since LOL Day 1 when they tried to refund me for my GearHead payment which caused some confusion because they got their wires crossed and I had Good News for them; it was I who had given them money for Goods and now, Services.

They were all confused. They thought they were paying me to organise their back-office administration systems. This happens to me all the time.

This here below is what happens to me - literally - all the time. Since DELL stole my ostensibly BitLocker-corrupted hard drive in Feb '11, this is my interaction with the IT industry.

They really, really do not want to help. Can you tell? NetGear and I have been speaking like this for 8 months now. The IT industry and I have been speaking like this since DELL I '11.

I try to be helpful. I draw helpful arrows directing them to the simple things they're confused about, helping them to help me. But if I didn't know better, I'd say their time was spent doing something entirely less helpful than helping. But this is probably conspiracy theories. 14 months and more worthless money than anything is worth, trying to PAY for goods and services.

Money will not buy you happiness. But they don't tell you, Money will buy you misery. They leave that part out, after they make you WANT pain 'relief'.



lololl you cannot BUY a fucking thing with money. Someone play a game with me so I can keep on asking these morons for the same, simple thing; over and over. The alternative is that I don't. Look, I'll probably just kick along but then I might kill you all first. If you prefer? I understand this world is powered on INTEL, pain and fear.

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They refuse to redact this filthy shit. So they invent "catechisms". How cute!

It's time to kill. And time for some Christians to die.

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dude the whole root certificate deal is like, this insane half assed conglomerate of shady faggots.

like, one of them recently issued a totally fake google.com wildcard cert, meaning that pretty much anyone could use it to sniff ssl traffic too/from gmail, for example.

sup china? you lookin good iran!

but yeah as far as in-depth understanding of the whole certificate infrastructure im pretty thin on knowledge.

i will only say that when it comes to shit like ubunu, when you consider the fame that would come with exposing its stock certificate chains as corrupt or somehow invalid, and that people arent doing it, thats where im willing to embrace blind trust on the issue and assume all is well.

like people who realllllllly understand certificate issues, i mean bottom to top, they arent sounding alarms to my knowledge. and these are guys im comfortable with trusting to do so.
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oh and then we have the stuxnet cert debacle of course.

btw if you continue on this course and really, like _really_ start to get a journeyman or better understanding of the metascape surrounding things like root server certs and such, its almost inevitable that you can find absurdly high paying work approximately anywhere, anytime.

its a competitive field at many levels but youre definitely closing in on a unified baseline understanding thats distinctly advantageous, as most 'experts' tend to have extremely narrow fields of expertise.
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dude the whole root certificate deal is like, this insane half assed conglomerate of shady faggots.

Yes. Like Mozilla, Microsoft, Google.

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like, one of them recently issued a totally fake google.com wildcard cert, meaning that pretty much anyone could use it to sniff ssl traffic too/from gmail, for example.

Yes. I investigated this infuriating insanity last year and it's so fucking unbelievable I knew I was going to die. No one is even asking how it could even HAPPEN. I'm not really that bright. Like seriously, I spent over a decade furiously denying my intelligence. To be a moron and simultaneously one of the only functional minds on the planet is fucking...

The entire Google certificate thing is just fucking bullshit.

This is what I wrote last year when I was trying to make sense of what makes ZERO sense.

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I've read and steamed, and raved at my screen, and I've had enough. As best I can make out, this is the development of events leading to Google Inc issuing themselves an actual certificate for the first time in history...A MONTH AGO. And - if I'm not mistaken - there are STILL a lot of Google sites not covered. Wildcards are fine, but they can't get them working right. Maybe they shouldn't be in the Internet business?

DO NO EVIL my fucking ass.

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So a core concept anyone should be able to grasp is that for a unique domain, you would not EVER require two certificates. So how the hell did the FUNCTIONALITY in the system even allow the issuance of a secondary Certificate for the domains www.google.com and google.com? This is bullshit right here.

The world is supposed to believe that Google simply didn't have Certificates for www.google.com and google.com and this permitted Comodo to trigger this filthy scandal and no one even asks HOW THE FUCK DID THIS HAPPEN?



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i will only say that when it comes to shit like ubunu, when you consider the fame that would come with exposing its stock certificate chains as corrupt or somehow invalid, and that people arent doing it, thats where im willing to embrace blind trust on the issue and assume all is well.

That's pretty shaky logic. The corruption burns off the screen. The corruption is Chrome, Firefox, IE and Safari FORCING their Root CAs onto your computer. That's a proactive, unnecessary, malicious act that is justified only if they're acting as the "moral authority".

I said all this last year and the 'experts' you refer to below had nothing to say but "that's a valid argument". What? The argument is that all the browsers are corrupt. The browsers won't justify why they force their Root CAs onto machines. There's no counter-argument. I 'win' again. I 'win' so often, I get to die. Hallelujah.

I'm not the only person stating the BLEEDING obvious, either. This is in one of the CNNIC scandal threads, where Mozilla reps are just NAUSEATING.

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> 1) We have never claimed as a matter of policy that our PKI decisions
> can protect people from malicious governments. It's just not a plausible
> promise for us to make.

With due respect, "never have made the promise" just doesn't cut it in
my eyes. To turn it around: never was there any warning to the user base
that there is some "special class" of miscreants that Mozilla would not
protect the users from. This can be explained (but not excused) by the
mindset of those that instituted the process: in their minds, "governments",
by definition, can't be miscreants. I and (as that discussion on bugzilla
demonstrates) many, many, others do not share this mindset.

Perhaps it is time to review the process. It would be smart to take Mozilla
out of the trust business. At the very least, all root certificates that
are included should not be trusted until the user explicitly turns those he
or she knows and trusts (and needs for his or her transactions) on.


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Bingo. This is so fucking obvious it's vomit-inducing. Mozilla Rep didn't respond. The browsers are corrupt. What's the counter-argument to my 'valid' bleeding obvious 'argument'?

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like people who realllllllly understand certificate issues, i mean bottom to top, they arent sounding alarms to my knowledge. and these are guys im comfortable with trusting to do so.

You trust too easily. What's their explanation for:

a) why the browsers and operating systems FORCE Root CAs onto users? They force corrupt CAs onto users and then insult everyone with this bullshit ludicrous "revocation" nonsense. I wouldn't need to revocate DAILY if they weren't god damn vile.

b) why corrupt Diginotar, Comodo / UTN-FirstUser / CNNIC / Verisign Root CAs end up on my machine daily? I place them in the Untrusted store in Windows, I mark them as "Not Trusted" for all uses; I've tried everything but they just end up back in Trusted Root stores. I know the answer, but these are the guys you trust who won't have answers. The answer is because of (a). When I delete them off my machine, the browsers put them back on. When I don't delete them but mark them as Untrusted they function to allow corruption to poor onto my machine.

This world is burning up with stupid imbeciles and and apathy and incompetence and pussy-footing delicate pandering to Evil. I've asked over 2000 direct questions to experts and they can't even fucking grow a pair of balls to answer one of them.
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Here we have a large site with what would appear a valid Certificate, unable to get their own domain names registered correctly. And so Google (operating using Internet Explorer's Trusted Root Certificate Authority store, in which Windows casually slides fraudulent Verisign and Comodo certs silently from Untrusted to Trusted) warns us about stackoverflow.com's 'incompetence'.

*.google.*

The above was too 'complex' for Google to think of. If only they had me to think of it for them. Shucks, huh? I die.

*.stackoverflow.*

Too complex for StackOverflow. "carn it, I thought our certificate could certify our certificate name, instead of certifying the domain name. I always get that mixed up! *cheesy grin* golly gosh, well you learn something new every day don't ya! I'll try and do better next time teehee."
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I just prove companies are corrupt over and over. 14 months of this FUCKING BULLSHIT.



ESET never responded. The questions seem to warrant a response, no? THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T RESPOND. But you keep using them.

THAT'S WHY THEY DON'T RESPOND. I don't blame ESET. I blame the fucking imbeciles who see evidence of corruption and shrug. The next time they're looking for an 'anti-virus' program, they'll probably think of ESET.

BRAND RECOGNITION.

(caveat: I work for ESET.)
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Unexplainable.



I don't understand this one, it's kinda weird. The GoDaddy / Starfield certificate is ostensibly okay, but it's for osuosl.org (Oregon State) who are linked to openid.net because they host them or something? Why doesn't OpenID.net get their own certificate? If certifying an SSL domain is beyond their capacity, when I could get it done in about 40 minutes, one wonders whether they should be handling Google and Facebook federated signins across the Internet.

*.openid.*

Too complex for them! The thought never occurred to them! FUCK OFF.

On their OSL Alliance page, they're asking for $100,000 annual donations for the highest tier. This is OpenID who can't manage their own Certificates. At what point does the laughing stop and the screaming begin?
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