I wish now I had taken a little more time to make sense of what I have written, take better care of producing cohesive thoughts and what have you, but I do not have the time. Scuter is just the BEST at polishing every pebble he throws into the pond, it's amazing.
The internal turmoil I suffer now goes like this- Having this new perspective, can I or do I still believe in Jesus Christ? The answer is complex, and the truth is I do not honestly know (doubtful anyone does really)
The argument can go both ways- either Jesus was invented to help control people through genius mental games (mostly hinging on guilt and/or shame in some fashion) or the whackyness of the bible is intended to sound silly to test one's faith. If you believe in Him, you believe, straight up. No amount of mumbo jumbo could ever dissuade you from your core belief, it should be unshakeable. For good measure let's even sprinkly in some of pascals wager, which states essentially it is illogical to gamble against faith as it is a zero sum wager. If you gamble on faith and win, you win everything, if you lose, you lose nothing (having lived a good life anyway) whereas the atheist is gambling to win nothing whatsoever etc etc. Human psychology is really quite fascinating.
I am still seeking truth and probably always will, as I encourage others to do. Life is too short to stumble through it with your eyes shut, that's for certain.
The skinny is somewhat hard to explain/describe easily via online forum.
It only seems that way because Religion doesn't want people talking about their personal development, mistakes they have corrected and/or failed to address, and especially - more than anything - Religion doesn't want people talking about what they've learned.
The reasons are bleeding obvious; but first you'd have to understand they exist to exploit humans, not help them. They create the pain, then dangle their bogus pain 'relief'. They will inflict pain onto you and have the nerve to suggest that you were to blame, or that you should feel shame, or that you shouldn't complain.
You could literally kill them without being -remotely- immoral.
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There was a calling within me to heal as I have been deeply hurt
Existentially, you had something akin to a fractured femur (courtesy of Religion's emotional corruption of the entire globe) and joining a Church community would be like putting a soiled and filthy rag (drenched in blood thinners) onto the open wound and pressing down to stop the bleeding. The bleeding might appear to stop, but your blood will have been infected and thinned. Take that rag away and your blood will spurt like a fountain. I have no idea if this analogy is even logical; I'm not a doctor and blood makes me faint.
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Essentially this gnawing digging feeling in my stomach has pushed me to great lengths to silence it.
That is your existential soul trying to heal itself.
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No amount of drugs or alcohol has ever silenced the need though, it's like I have a great bit whole in my heart and i just can't fill it.
I believe you are looking for something called Self.
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I finally meet a buddy who gets me into christianity hardcore, but he did it in such a way...I can only describe it as "very christian"
It's called - and this is the technical term - being a WHORE for God.
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My buddy keep in mind is a great person, he is in many ways the badass american hero a lot of people dream about becoming someday. Lives a pious life, has two great kids, strong morals and ethics, never touched a drug in his life, never has an issue with any addictions, is in complete control with money. I mean it's hard to find a chink in his armour.
I can find some.
1. He's an American hero. Why wouldn't he be a hero for Humanity? Does he think 'American' humans are better than the humans Westphalia drew illusionary lines to separate him from?
2. Lives a pious life. How pious can you be reading a Bible that HATES women, advises those who love their JEALOUS LORD to murder peaceful innocents, slaughter unarmed non-combatants, kill children in cold blood and viciously rape child virgins.
3. Has two children. Whom he exposes to the above evil. Tight failing at everything.
4. Strong morals. See point 2. There are no morals in the Bible that are decent. Only moronic people or the illiterate can FEEL otherwise.
5. False ethics. It's impossible to be ethical whilst seeking to advantage over humans, which is the entire ethos of the Christian Bible, the Muslim Qur'an and the filthy Torah / Tanakh / Talmud / etc; so either he's a fraud pretending to ethics or he's too stupid to know what is ethical and what is not.
6. Never touched a drug. I would bet your life on this being a retarded lie and you would die 100% of the time. Don't be ridiculous. Look up the definition of "drug".
7. No addictions. Sounds like he's addicted to religion. He's dependent on it, no? And however does he breathe without addiction to oxygen?
8. In control of money. Yes, how 'peculiar' that the followers of a man who waxed lyrical about the need to give your shit away (the Church will help you with that pesky money), are invariably more 'prosperous' than their counterparts. Wake up and smell the con. He hasn't forsaken all that he hath, has he? How dare he call himself Christ's disciple.
8 chinks, out of the 8 'strengths' you listed. The only 'armour' is your brainwashed 'values' which will preclude your ability to see the reality until you are capable of doing logic.
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God will do various things if you just ask. So I asked. And never directly received anything to speak of
Don't you know that your fault? Christians believe they are blessed until they are not blessed; at which point, every other Christian disassociates (or moves in for the final kill) because God was very explicit. You are rich by his power alone (can't possibly imagine why a priest would suggest that, ROFL). The logical corollary is that you are poor by his power alone.
He is all-powerful, after all. The babies raped by Catholicism are His Will and He Works In Mysterious Ways.
They're about as mysterious as you are stupid.
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though at times things have happened that are hard to explain.
The more stupid you are, the less you will have the capacity to fathom. And if you're stupid like my parents are stupid, the world will seem like a wondrous creation of God's bountiful magic.
In the meantime, they're breaking into tongues when their children get raped as a result of their being too stupid to be alive.
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It seems like my common sense told me "everything that's happened could go one way or the other, depending on a persons perspective. If you want to believe, there is some proof, if not, explain it with such and such."
But your common 'sense' is demented and retarded. It's nonsensical. There is no "proof"; you just don't have the capacity to understand the definition of the word. It's all about perspective yes; the more stupid your perspective, the easier it will be for someone to suggest that something is evidence when it's evident that it is not.
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Right so after a while I started asking some questions of my buddy, mostly about the Old Testament (this preceded Scuters intervention) and he never had a good answer to anything I asked.
That's because he's running a filthy con and you were played. You should have been unplayed when you had the good sense to poke holes through the obvious, but some people are just a sucker for a 'good' con.
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Here is the bottom line- christians are sick and need to heal.
TRUTH.
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That is why they go to church. If you aren't sick, you really have nothing to gain by going.
TRUTH.
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Salvation? from what? What have you done? You seek to get into heaven? Who said you weren't? Wait wait, we are born into sin and destined to go to hell unless Jesus bathes us in salvation and grace or whatever, and for this reason He basically committed suicide. For us. To get into heaven....
Exactly.
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It's all mentally assaulting
They start at age 0 as well, regardless of whether your parents are Christian or even religious. 1500 years of mental assault. You will BE assaulted by their horrifyingly illogical creepy.
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Originally Posted by Apes of Wrath
Over and over again, over the years all manor of different churches, never felt a thing.
Was there any rhyme or reason to the manner in which you left one and joined another? Or was it a simple case of disillusionment? And how did your buddy feel about your leaving his congregation? Creeps tend to take that slap in the face very personally.
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The part that I was missing all this time is this- churches do not exist to explain God or where we come from anymore, this ins't the stone ages.
They learned their lesson from that little embarrassment with the world being a sphere and all, when God was certain it was flat.
The entire Bible and those who assert they speak for God (I read a lot on "papal infallibility" last night; christ world, you are too moronic to even pity) have a gaping 'chink' in their non-existent armour which can be used to prove to anyone capable of level 1 logic that they're a demented fraud. God never knows anything more than what was widely believed to be true when it was written. GOD - NEVER - EVER - KNOWS - A - SINGLE - SCIENTIFIC - UNKNOWN. God does, however, know a great deal of tragic idiocy believed to be true to morons at the time of writing.
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Genesis
God creates light and separates light from darkness, and day from night, on the first day. Yet he didn't make the light producing objects (the sun and the stars) until the fourth day (1:14-19). 1:3-5
Plants are made on the third day before there was a sun to drive their photosynthetic processes (1:14-19). 1:11
"He made the stars also." God spends a day making light (before making the stars) and separating light from darkness; then, at the end of a hard day's work, and almost as an afterthought, he makes the trillions of stars. 1:16
"I have given you every herb ... and every tree ... for meat." Since many plants have evolved poisons to protect against animals that would like to eat them, God's advice is more than a little reckless. Would you tell your children to go out in the garden and eat whatever plants they encounter? Of course not. But then, you are much nicer and smarter than God. Christians don't actually believe any of this. Stoners in Christian prisons would understand. 1:29
Throughout all of history, God and the vile Middle Men who assert their capacity to speak for Him have only ever known whatever the scientific community has discovered until that point. This is an endless source of 'embarrassment' for religion. And it would be all the logical proof a sane / just society would require to kill every slithering creep on the planet who asserts they speak for a higher power; so you can give them your money and your children, if you want to.
You can tolerate them, if you're insane or so stupid that you might as well be.
But sane people lash out to protect innocent children from the -provable- evil of lying Holy Men. They kill 100 creeps to save a single pure and innocent face.
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Churches exist so sick people can find relief from their pain, be it emotional physical spiritual etc.
No that's what people FEEL they exist for. But they exist to create and exploit imagined pain; and the real pain that results from their victims trying to live in their pain and shame.
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It's not terribly normal for a human being to fret about whether or not God is happy with them and whether or not they will get into heaven when they die. The ones who do are usually guilty of something.
Not necessarily. They might just imagine their guilt because they're too dull to realise whatever they did was not in their best interests, was not them, was not something they wanted to do or could be expected to prevent; and so they let the shame of religion percolate and fester and, before they know it, they're rolling.
Once the ball of shame is rolling, it doesn't take long before the shame is substantially more valid than imagined. The 'trick' of religion is to trip innocent children, smashing their faces into the gravel; then pick them up and impose their shame onto them. It's called Christian Compassion and it should be a capital offence, in some instances.
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Jesus instantly fogives ANYONE, for ANY reason, at ANY time, just ask the thief on the cross beside Him.
Just ask those who want you to smash your face into gravel.
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I am sorry but it's very hard to agree in that spot. My life has been far from good great or even really forgiveable, it was very much hard to believe that I could do anything I wanted and Jesus was going to usher me into heaven.
You couldn't. Sins Jesus didn't die for include:
heresy
using birth control
using protection from STDs
asking questions
making scientific discoveries that embarrass the creeps
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So here we slide down the slippery slope of "what exactly is the criteria to get into heaven anyway?"
There is no Heaven but if there was one, the criteria would be intrinsically linked to whether you maliciously (and ignorance is malicious, if allowed to remain unchecked subsequent to being informed of it) hurt others in your attempt (or otherwise) to gain admission.
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I don't know. It seems like no one really knows.
Nonsense. You don't KNOW that the frozen urine waste from a 747 won't land on your head, killing you instantly. But you kind of do, don't you? When the negligibility is so remote, it's not worth agonising over whether you're going to be killed by piss.
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You could argue Jesus will save all of His believers
No you couldn't. You'd have to be retarded to believe he had the power to save you. You'd have to be demented to believe you -needed- saving. You -need- to save yourSelf from religious insanity.
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I mean just look at the thief on the cross (hate to use examples twice) and all the scoundrels Jesus loved to associate with.
Claim the creeps who believe they have a vested interest in tripping humans over to smash their faces into the gravel.
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YET, Jesus also says it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a wealthy man to get into heaven, and says "if thou can't not forsake all that thou hast, you can not be my disciple!"
Once you read even a few chapters you should be able to understand what is going on. It's not complex. Read Matthew 19.
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Matthew 19 (KJV)
1 And it came to pass, that when Jesus had finished these sayings, he departed from Galilee, and came into the coasts of Judaea beyond Jordan;
2 And great multitudes followed him; and he healed them there. Where's the proof? The Bible said so.
3 The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause? The correct answer to this is, "What kind of a fucking question is that? What does the woman want to do?" Jesus doesn't care about what women want. That was one of his less admirable traits. He didn't have any admirable ones. Don't let Christian Toddlers -confuse- you.
4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, The Bible quoting the Bible.
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Genesis 2 (KJV)
18 And the Lord God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. Women made to serve men. Who says? The Bible, says the Bible.
24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh. Sounds a little clingy, almost like...ownership? Possession? Is this ringing a bell with you? It's fucking LOVE is what it is. Evil, through and through.
25 And they were both naked, the man and his wife, and were not ashamed. Because if you are naked, you should be ashamed. Your parents instilled shame their shame in you because of this demented shit. You just don't remember how insane and creepy they were when they suddenly realised you were a SEXUAL BEING who needed privacy.
5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? The Bible is quoting the Bible.
6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. Who gives a fuck about what the humans joined together want to do? When God joins something together, YOU don't get to fucking choose. Who does? Why those who speak for the God that loves you, of course. Because you're too stupid for him to speak to?
7 They say unto him, Why did Moses then command to give a writing of divorcement, and to put her away? This is the literal Word of God being quoted to Jesus Christ, who believed he was the son of Moses; sorry, the Son of God.
8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. The Law is against the Law, sometimes. They said the same thing at Nuremberg, about Law.
9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. Time for a new Law. The timeless, all-powerful God changed His mind. New laws come into effect now: No more divorce, under any circumstances (except if she cheats on you, so men who have wanted to rid themselves of wives simply claimed they cheated; Henry VIII, for example). Note how Jesus never gives a flying fuck about what the woman wants or doesn't want?
10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. His disciples have reservations. A lifetime is a long fucking time.
11 But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother's womb is that a scientific fact?: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men that's a historical fact: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. ROFL, and 1500 years of missing CHOIRGIRLS have screamed the obvious about priests, who suddenly get a calling from a non-existent being, to lecture humans on their shame and to spend time cloistered away with little angelic boys He that is able to receive it, let him receive it. Jesus' laws don't need to followed. They're just a helpful guide.
13 Then were there brought unto him little children, that he should put his hands on them, and pray: and the disciples rebuked them. The disciples didn't know that Jesus was into putting his hands on little children.
14 But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven. Jesus believed putting his hands on little children was heavenly. Jesus was all about the kids. That's why he turned the water into wine instead of pasteurised milk or OJ.
15 And he laid his hands on them, and departed thence. That's called a "touch and run". Standard operating procedure for pedophiles who put their hands on children.
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? Hold your breath, for the Terms & Conditions of Christianity.
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. Only God is good, especially when he's telling you to kill the parents of the little virgins you want to keep for sex slaves. There are no Commandments prohibiting RAPE. Which means, Jesus said rape is cool in Matthew 19:17. Chapter and verse. Keep the Commandments, that's all you have to do. And Love God, who orders you to take the things that belong to others, kill them and rape their children. Simple. And therein lies the evil of Law. It doesn't prohibit so much as legalise insanity. The Ten Commandments legalised RAPE. Jesus confirmed this in Matthew 19:17.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Did Jesus stutter? "Keep the Ten Commandments", Jesus says. This guy says "Which?" What a moron. Guess he had to set Jesus up to create some ambiguity. Jesus duly complies. Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. Jesus had no fucking clue about the Ten Commandments. He misses a bunch of them, and horribly butchers a few. There is no Commandment to love thy neighbour. There is no commandment about murder. God categorically states THOU SHALT NOT KILL. Not even in self-defence. Jesus is rewriting the Commandments, on the fly. Of course he forgot to write in the 11th Commandment: THOU SHALT NOT RAPE. Christian Toddlers who think they are especially crafty love all the endless ambiguity and contradictions in the Bible. They think they're gifted because they can pick and choose whatever 'suits' them. Of course, the joke -as always- is on the moronic Toddlers who think they're shrewd.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet? Jesus is about to change his Terms & Conditions for Christianity, just like THAT. Sheer impulse.
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. This is what you want to do if you're PERFECT. All Christians know they're not perfect, ROFL.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whoa whoa whoa. Jesus is changing his fucking Terms & Conditions again. Is it to be PERFECT or is it to be a PREREQUISITE for entry into Heaven? Big fucking difference. Jesus was a 'little' confused.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. Now he's certain. Rich people are screwed. But he never said any of this to the rich guy. Jesus lied to that dude.
25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? Good question. Because if we all gave our shit to the poor, there would be no poor except - I guess - Christians who have forsaken all that they hath, trying to get into Heaven. See many of them? There's your proof.
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. You understand? If you do, you're an imbecile.
27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore? Peter claims to be perfect. Just like every Pope since.
28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel. Perfect people get a throne, to JUDGE other Jews. Think about the R.E.S.P.E.C.T. that will get you, huh? Yeah.
29 And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life. You have to forsake your property, your brothers, your sisters, your father, your mother, your children to inherit everlasting life. If you read this another way, pray tell; what's the requirement to forsake your family if everyone gets everlasting life anyway? For 100 families in heaven? Good one.
30 But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. So everyone waits to be the last, teehee. That's how you become NUMBER 1.
If you can't work out the con from Matthew 19:26, 30 alone, you're gonna have some problems for the rest of your life because you'd be a mark for every Toddler (and toddler) on the planet.
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The bible is literally teeming with it, the mindfuck kind of thing above. You can only get to heaven if you believe in stories that insult you, literally, and you can ONLY believe in this stuff heart and soul for one-single-reason.
Very good. They want you to stop thinking, like your buddy whose brain shuts down when you ask him the simplest questions in the world.
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YOU MUST BE SICK. That's it, there is the truth, in order to hear stories like those in the bible and find them believable heart and soul, a person *MUST* be sick in some way. Might be guilt, might be sorrow, might be bad upbringing producing a need to feel shame all the damned time. Or a person might just be a robot, just following his or her family around, perhaps a girl or something. Of course there are also those who EXPLOIT other humans with religion, and use it go get wealthy or find vulnerable children or whatever.
This is flawless.
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The scary part is that christianity teaches HORRIBLE morals and values, yet people flock to churches and try to cram the crap down their kids throats. "It's GOOD for kids, teaches them right from wrong, they won't steal or do anything bad"
WITH JESUS FORGIVING ALL FOR ALL SINS WHY THE FUCK WOULDN'T THEY???? AND WHAT PART OF INCEST RAPE AND VIOLENCE (as found throughout the old testament) SCREAMS BLUEPRINT FOR A HEALTHY LOVING ADULT TO YOU????
Perfect. They smash them into the gravel, pick them up and shake their head tsk tsk, but it's okay. You'll be forgiven, and then they'll smash you into the gravel again. Again and again.
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The truth is that NONE of what's being delivered matches the bill of sale. Christians believe they can do, more or less, whatever they want, be forgiven for it, and come monday back to the grind. Meanwhile they fool themselves into thinking no one reads the old testament, who the fuck cares, yet their very own CHILDREN most likely will do exactly that- read the old testament. That's a scary thought IMO, I certainly would NOT want my children reading that crap. Honestly, aside from Scuter I hardly know a person who has actually read it.
Never would have gotten past Ch 1 of Genesis if there was anything else to read.
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I was in pain, and they church offers pain relief.. Or so they say...pain relief is another totally different pm/thread though.
Beware of the "moral hazard" inevitably present with those who profit from relief of pain.
Whether it's a car mechanic, a doctor, a shrink, a window repairman, a electronics distributor, a religious creep or your government; anyone who does not proactively take steps to ensure near-to-total-transparency and, by extension, your "peace of mind", isn't -potentially- taking advantage. Hah. No no.
THEY ARE RAPING YOU 100% OF THE TIME.
Trust them at your demented peril. You cannot pay pain to go away. You cannot reward those who profit from your pain, without running the risk that they will -profit- more optimally than your fantasies would make you FEEL would be preferable to you.
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Essentially the whole enigma of religion goes like this: (for our purposes here, and keep in mind this is an opinion I have formed, not stating anything as fact, and I reserve the right to change my opinion as I see fit) A long time ago people had no fucking idea where we came from, what was going on in the universe, no one knew what the fuck was going on really (things are different? chortle) so the church kind of springs up selling an idea of where we came from and what made us people find acceptable. The church is vibrant, needed, loved and revered.
Nonsense. The Bible tells you the Truth.
A prince of Egypt brainwashed his entire life into believing he was born to rule slaves, was dispossessed of his illusionary right of birth. This was very hard for him to accept, and he believed he -needed- the power he'd always had because he didn't know the first thing about happiness or fun. He was brilliant though, although these things are relative; but compared to a bunch of slaves too stupid not to breed (more slaves), he was crafty enough.
He decided if these snivelling peoples were to be his people (which was the decision of the Pharaoh and likely a great deal more politicks-related than heritage, but I forget the demented logic used to dispossess him), he would lead them out of their slavery and rule over them as he believed he was -literally- born to do.
LET MY PEOPLE GO.
Nah.
People, you have been Chosen by me to be ruled over by me. We're going.
And they just walked up and left the pyramids and there wasn't really anything the Egyptians could do about it, because their slavery was mostly an illusion (the result of illogical fears). Oh the Pharaoh sent some soldiers out, who killed some but if they're flatly refusing to go back is the Pharaoh supposed to kill all the slaves to teach them not to leave again? He would lose some valuable soldiers achieving absolutely nothing. He probably half-suspected they'd come wandering back because where were they going to go? As it happened, he just let them go because fuck 'em. What could he do?
You were told a slightly less sane story which was written by Moses, for dramatic effect. If you look very closely, you'll see all the demented signs of Toddler narcissism. Basically, all the insane illogical idiocy served the obvious intent of the writer: It was all written to make Moses sound better, more powerful, superior to everyone and everything.
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Exodus
God tells Moses and Aaron that when Pharaoh asks for a miracle just throw your rod down and it will become a serpent. So when the time comes, Aaron throws down his rod and it becomes a serpent. But the Egyptian magicians duplicate this trick. Say what? Luckily, for Aaron, his snake swallows theirs. (Whew!) God is more powerful than the Egyptian magicians' gods. 7:9-13
After the rod to serpent trick, God tells Moses and Aaron to smite the river and turn it into blood. This is the first of the famous 10 plagues of Egypt. Unfortunately, the magicians know this trick too, and they do so with their enchantments. (Rats!) Just how the river could be turned to blood by the Egyptian sorcerers after it had been turned to blood by Moses and Aaron is not explained. One presumes Moses and Aaron turned it back to water to give the sorcerers a chance. God is sportsmanlike when competing with powerful demons. 7:17-24
The second plague is frogs. Frogs covered the land. They were all over the beds and filled the ovens. But the Egyptian magicians did this trick too. (Did they wait until the frogs cleared out from the last performance before doing it again?) After the frog-making contest was declared a draw, all the frogs died and "they gathered them together upon heaps; and the land stank." I bet. But at least it was all for the greater glory of God. 8:2-7
Plague #3 is lice in man and beast. This is the first trick that the magicians couldn't do. After this the magicians were convinced that Moses and Aaron's plagues were done by "the finger of God," and they gave up trying to match the remaining seven plagues. I guess lice are harder to make than frogs. 8:17-19
The fourth plague is swarms of flies, continuing the frogs and lice theme. 8:21
The fifth plague: all cattle in Egypt die for the first time. 9:6
But a little later (9:19-20, 12:29), God kills them again a couple more times.
The sixth plague: boils and blains upon man and beast. Hahah. 9:9-12
Why does God send plagues? So that people can get to know him better. (Who would even want to?) 9:14
God gave power to the Pharaoh so that he could show off his own power by killing him. (God is a demented show-off; seems strange for an all-powerful being to imagine He has a -need- to prove Himself all the time, and in such moronic ways.) 9:15-16
The seventh plague is hail. "And the hail smote throughout the land of Egypt all that was in the field, both man and beast." God kills the beasts again. Was he bringing them back to life each time? 9:22-25
God killed Egyptians and their livestock by smashing them with huge hailstones mixed with fire. Whoa! Burning ice. 9:24
God wants to be remembered forever for the mass murder of innocent little children. 10:2
Eighth plague: locusts that are so thick that they "covered the face of the whole earth." (Even over Antarctica? Bet it shocked the shit out of the Incas.) 10:4-5
Ninth plague: three days of darkness. The darkness was so that the Egyptians couldn't even see each other. But the darkness knew how to avoid the Israelites, and so "all the children of Israel had light in their dwellings." Hardly seems traumatic, after the first eight horrors. 10:21-23
But God was saving the best trick for last. God tells the Israelites to smear some blood on their doors. That way when he's going around murdering innocent Egyptian babies and children, he'll remember not to kill the children of Israel too. He probably said to himself when he saw the blood, "Oh yeah, I remember now. I not supposed to kill the children in this house." 12:7, 13
The Egyptians chased after the Israelites with "all Pharaoh's horses." But according to 9:3-6 there wouldn't have been any horses, since God killed them all in "a very grievous murrain." 14:23
"The Lord ... took off their chariot wheels." God (the devious mechanic) personally removed the wheels from the Egyptian chariots. All the horses were dead, but the Pharaoh obviously procured some new ones out of thin air, so off come the wheels. Ha hah. Take that! 14:25
God divided the sea with a "blast of [his] nostrils." Whoosh! 15:8
Moses casts a tree into the water and makes the bitter water taste sweet. 15:25
God appears to the Israelites and speaks from a cloud promising to send lots of food (quails and mana) from the sky. 16:10-12
It took the Israelites 40 years (14,600 days) to travel from Egypt to Canaan, yet such a short journey, even at that time, would have taken no more than ten days. 16:35
And so, they were led out into the desert for what should have been a 10-day journey. Very few people in the world understand why it took 40 years. It has to do with some very dark truths about human nature and behavioural traits. It involves the dark art of Imprinting or "Baby Duck Syndrome".
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A rapid learning process by which a newborn or very young animal establishes a behavior pattern of recognition and attraction towards other animals of its own kind, as well as to specific individuals of its species, such as its parents, or to a substitute for these. Ducklings, for example, will imprint upon and follow the first large moving object they observe. In nature, this is usually their mother, but they can be made to imprint upon other moving objects, such as a soccer ball.
Humans imprint onto things impossibly more retarded than a large soccer ball. Moses knew this, but he needed time to kill off a generation and breed a new one to be imprinted with his image of Hate.
Moses couldn't enact his plan until they were imprinted and malleable and able to murder human babies with abandon. But it would take decades to mold them into the sociopathic killer force Moses planned from the start. First he needed to break their Zen.
So whilst they skirmished with bands of Amalekites intermittently (the descendants of whom the LORD has sworn to war with for all eternity; seems...insane), they would mostly just win or lose depending on whether Moses could keep his hand in the air (according to Moses).
But Moses had a plan, and it was the plan that would enslave all of humanity. It's the reason they've printed 8 billion copies of the most hate-filled, insanity-filled, emotionally-corruptive book ever written. They printed 8 billion copies to give your children the hate, insanity and emotional corruption that blasted me in the face when I seven years old, for the first time. I didn't recognise it. I was too young and had been distracted by the sheer evil. But the emotional corruption is in all the little verses where -and gosh, they're so sweet- your children are taught how to FEEL.
(all taken from the King James Version)
Exodus 20:2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.
Human slavery. Keeping slaves forever? "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
Exodus 20:8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
Human sex slaves must not be sold and resold; if she doesn't please you, here is an idea for what you could do which isn't cool. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.
Thou Shalt Not Kill already covers murder by fists, but it's important to be specific. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:15 And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.
Thou Shalt Not Kill already covers parenticide but it's important to be specific. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:16 And he that stealeth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.
Death for stealing slaves. You must buy or make them yourself, or do not covet them in the first place. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.
Death for swearing at your parents. Honor Thy Father And Thy Mother; was insufficient. Swearing at your parents is unacceptable. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:18 And if men strive together, and one smite another with a stone, or with his fist, and he die not, but keepeth his bed:
When you fight with each other, you can use your fists but you can also use whatever is lying around. A stone, for example. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
Save the rod for your children, who must not be spared the rod. No clarification on whether killing your slaves with a whip, or your hand; is punishable. If Thou Shalt Not Kill sufficed, why has God seen fit to dabble in ultra-specific details regarding the killing of your human slaves? "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.
Hitting your slaves so that they don't die within a day or two is fine; after all, they are your money so you can do what you like. Except killing them with a rod. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished
An idea to hurt a man you are fighting with. You could hurt his pregnant wife and make her lose her baby. It's just a helpful suggestion. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,
Exodus 20:24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,
Exodus 20:25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
An idea if you're not happy with the judgement, you can do mischief you know? But if you do, here is the insanity of revenge to brainwash your mind. It's vigilante justice for the emotionally insane. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:26 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake.
Fair is fair. You'll lose a slave or a sex slave if you get frustrated and blind one. "Don't do it."
Exodus 20:28 If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten
Vent your rage in demented irrational ways. But why don't you just have a word to your oxen about goring people to death? "Don't do it."
And so on and so on and so -literally- on and on and on and on; verse after verse, chapter after chapter, book after book. Every single verse is doing something you're too dull to realise without my pointing it out (and likely too dull to realise even when I point out the bleeding obvious).
The Bible teaches children how to FEEL. No -lol- it doesn't teach them how to be good.
For forty years, the Israelites wandered around being killed off whenever Moses had an opportunity to use their deaths as a lesson (i.e. when they complained). For forty years, Moses was brainwashing the children of his Chosen People non-stop, teaching them how to FEEL emotionally insane. Vindictive. Vengeant. Vicious.
All of the emotional corruption is provably insane but then when you're insane, you wouldn't realise it. You would just FEEL it makes sense to exact revenge but you've never been made to think about it (after Religion made you FEEL it). You could not use logic to back up your assertion that revenge makes a lick of sense.
That's how you would know you are FEELING insane. You won't be able to logically justify it using ration or reason. I just want to inflict pain, OKAY!?
No. It's understandable but it's not justifiable. It's not in your best interests to hurt you for no reason except to hurt someone who has hurt you. I'm talking the purest form of logic here. If you don't understand it, you're in big trouble. If you are unable to become sane, you will live in emotional confusion and pain for your entire life. You will be imposing your vile emotional corruption all over potentially-uncorrupted innocents. This is how emotional insanity went viral. That Christian Compassion. None of this is an accident. You're likely just too stupid to realise how obvious all of this truly is.
Let's cover some more helpful Bible emotional corruption.
Exodus 23:1 Thou shalt not raise a false report: put not thine hand with the wicked to be an unrighteous witness.
You don't have to tell the truth, you know? You could tell a lie to "suit yourself" but then that would be unrighteous. "Don't do it."
2 Thou shalt not follow a multitude to do evil; neither shalt thou speak in a cause to decline after many to wrest judgment:
You could follow the herd, you see? You would be safe. "Don't do it."
3 Neither shalt thou countenance a poor man in his cause.
You can mock poor people. "Don't do it."
4 If thou meet thine enemy's ox or his ass going astray, thou shalt surely bring it back to him again.
It's normal to have enemies. Everyone has enemies. You could just let your enemies shit go to shit, cause fuck them right? "Don't do it."
5 If thou see the ass of him that hateth thee lying under his burden, and wouldest forbear to help him, thou shalt surely help with him.
It's normal for people to hate you. What can you do? Hate them back? You could. "Don't do it."
6 Thou shalt not wrest the judgment of thy poor in his cause.
The Law can be used to exploit poor people. Just pointing that out, helpfully. "Don't do it."
7 Keep thee far from a false matter; and the innocent and righteous slay thou not: for I will not justify the wicked.
You could kill the innocent and righteous for...being so innocent and righteous. Just pointing that out, in case you missed it. "Don't do it."
8 And thou shalt take no gift: for the gift blindeth the wise, and perverteth the words of the righteous.
Do you understand how bribes work? This is what you can achieve with bribes. You can blind the wise, and you can make widely respected men lie for you. "Don't do it."
9 Also thou shalt not oppress a stranger: for ye know the heart of a stranger, seeing ye were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Remember how badly you were treated in Egypt? You could "return the favour" here with strangers. It's dementedly insane and illogical, connecting your treatment with that of an innocent stranger who has nothing to do with Egypt but if you want to, you could make that connection. "Don't do it."
10 And six years thou shalt sow thy land, and shalt gather in the fruits thereof:
11 But the seventh year thou shalt let it rest and lie still; that the poor of thy people may eat: and what they leave the beasts of the field shall eat. In like manner thou shalt deal with thy vineyard, and with thy oliveyard.
No one actually believes any of this shit. Not Jews. Not Christians. No one gives the poor the fruits of every seventh year.
12 Six days thou shalt do thy work, and on the seventh day thou shalt rest: that thine ox and thine ass may rest, and the son of thy handmaid, and the stranger, may be refreshed.
You could work non-stop but it's important to rest because you're too stupid to know when you're tired. Or more importantly, you're too stupid to know when your slaves are about to die. You could kill your slaves by overworking them. "Don't do it."
13 And in all things that I have said unto you be circumspect: and make no mention of the name of other gods, neither let it be heard out of thy mouth.
Here is how you learn how to lie and how to keep secrets.
20 Behold, I send an Angel before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared.
Anyone want to be the Angel, put your hand up.
21 Beware of him, and obey his voice, provoke him not; for he will not pardon your transgressions: for my name is in him.
Here are the perks of employment.
22 But if thou shalt indeed obey his voice, and do all that I speak; then I will be an enemy unto thine enemies, and an adversary unto thine adversaries.
He will help you kill and destroy. What do you mean, you don't have any enemies or adversaries? What are you talking about? A peaceful humanity which isn't insanely trying to kill each other? No. You will kill each other. Or they will kill you.
23 For mine Angel shall go before thee, and bring thee in unto the Amorites, and the Hittites, and the Perizzites, and the Canaanites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites: and I will cut them off.
Racial hatred. And drilling heritage into the subconscious.
25 And ye shall serve the Lord your God, and he shall bless thy bread, and thy water; and I will take sickness away from the midst of thee.
When Christians say 'grace', they're thanking the LORD for rewarding them for spreading the Gospel of Hate. When Christians get sick, or are hungry; everyone knows the LORD is punishing them. Clearly, they did not do what the LORD wanted.
27 I will send my fear before thee, and will destroy all the people to whom thou shalt come, and I will make all thine enemies turn their backs unto thee.
Everyone will be terrified of you. Their terror of you will make them crumble before you even get there. All you have to do is pop them like bubbles of blood and guts. Easiest job in the world when you do it from behind because -hah- they're trying to escape your insanity.
28 And I will send hornets before thee, which shall drive out the Hivite, the Canaanite, and the Hittite, from before thee.
Here is where Moses' brilliance kind of shines through. This is Moses explaining to his imprinted what is going to happen once he transforms them into a sociopathic, horror-immune, imprinted force to be reckoned with. He knew everyone around was exploitable; they were all living in peace and hadn't been 'toughened' by insanity. This made them weak. It did not make them exploitable.
Christians, Muslims, Jews fail to make that distinction all the time.
But here Moses is explaining that if a plague of hornets hits one of the peaceful cities nearby, they'll come in straight after the hornets. Sure, it will be the LORD's doing. Whatever floats your demented boat.
29 I will not drive them out from before thee in one year; lest the land become desolate, and the beast of the field multiply against thee.
Moses explaining how the inevitable is going to go down, in order to make it look like the LORD's doing. The LORD said it would go down this way. It doesn't need to make a lick of sense, but it's how the battles are going to be fought in reality and I'm the first person in billions that can do simple logic?
30 By little and little I will drive them out from before thee, until thou be increased, and inherit the land.
That's how it's gotta go down when you're a blood-thirsty marauding force of vicious murderers attacking those who HAVE when -gasp!- you HAVE NOT. Advantage over humans.
Kill them.
Inherit the land.
31 And I will set thy bounds from the Red sea even unto the sea of the Philistines, and from the desert unto the river: for I will deliver the inhabitants of the land into your hand; and thou shalt drive them out before thee.
Moses wants all of this territory, so that's what the LORD is going to help you do.
32 Thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor with their gods.
No Freedom of Religion. No peace. No deals. We will kill everyone. We will take their shit.
33 They shall not dwell in thy land, lest they make thee sin against me: for if thou serve their gods, it will surely be a snare unto thee.
You must kill them all because they are not imprinted. And your imprint is not permanent. You could become sane.
You must kill them all.
Non-stop, the Holy Bible (and the other Faith's manuscripts) drill this shit above; over and over. Here is how to be emotionally insane. Here is how to take advantage of those that have what you do not. Here is how to be emotionally in pain. Here is how to take the from the haves and give to the have nots. Keep the hatred inside the family. Keep the killing for outsiders. You'd die if you steal slaves from each other, or swear at your emotionally-corrupted parents.
But everyone else, it's A-OK to kill. Slaughter them all. Take their shit. It's what God wants you to do.
The entire Bible is like this. The Truth is as obvious as you are bright enough to see it. I don't think you need to be very bright once it's pointed out to you. I've already done the insightful work.
You just need to open your stupid eyes .
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Things change and humans develop science and rational logical thought and realize the stories about God aren't as needed anymore.
Needed? What you on about? What were stories about the insanity of deities ostensibly -needed- for, aside from terrifying imbeciles into killing human beings, of course?
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While riding light rail yesterday and older asian gentleman gets on the train. He walks over to where I am sitting, which is right in front of the bike racks, and looks to need to get his bike up (I'd say the bike was easily twice the size of this guy, it was comical)
Now, being a foot or two taller and 100+ lbs heavier, of course it's my place in the world to lug stuff around for people, so what do I do?
About oh say a month ago and on down the past who knows how long, I would jump up and say "oh let me help you!" because I was so polite, so nice, so "christian".
Let's decipher what I'm saying real quick "Hello, you seem old and frail. I have noticed this, and would like to draw your attention to that fact and rob you of your dignity. You aren't capable of lifting this bike on your own, didn't you know? Quit being old and weak and get the fuck out of the way" he would have humored me with a smile and I would feel awkward, as I have for years. Scuter would have chastised me by saying the damned fucking truth "HE DIDN'T ASK YOU MORON, OFFER HELP WHEN IT'S ASKED FOR AND NEVER BEFORE"
Well...there's ways you can offer there which wouldn't draw attention to your superiority and his frailty or make him feel pressured to let you assist when he might have totally had everything under control. But it's also fine to wait to be asked because if someone is too corrupted they cannot even ask for help, you know. Fuck 'em.
I'd probably leave it until I was reasonably certain he could use a hand, and then I'd just ask him "Could you use a hand or you got it covered?"
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THAT was a very hard and eye opening lesson for me as it's bleeds into so many things...So what did I do? I looked at the man and smiled, he looked at me, kind of messed with his bike and asked me quietly if I would please help him out. Took me 3 seconds if that and he gave me a very warm smile and a thank you and went to sit down, dignity and self respect intact. I helped him get his bike back down, he went on his way and was quite happy.
Solid. He would have been momentarily awkward not wanting to impose and that's healthy also; but it shouldn't ever stop you from asking for help if you need it because humans WANT to help each other.
Religious just gets everyone fucked up with assumptions and deceit and emotional corruption and before you know it, you just can't be fucked. Fuck 'em. This happened to me. Couldn't give a fuck anymore; some pleaded with their eyes or even asked me to help them but fuck them. I was sick to death of their demented shit.
Some really damaged victims of religion will never ask for help. They'll never tell you how they'll feel or what they want you to do. They are Toddlers who just want you to KNOW how they feel, OKAY!? You're just supposed to know that when they are bitching about a problem, they're not asking for you to help them solve it. They will 'solve' it their way. They just want to you to listen to them vent, OKAY?! You're their emotional toilet. You're just supposed to know that when they say "It's over" what they really mean is "Fight harder for me."
Except for the sane people who aren't stupid enough to think they're being crafty with their demented coy; the people who actually mean what they say? They mean "It's over" when they say "It's over". And if they wanted you to degrade yourself playing their demented emotional games, they would just say "Stalk me." You see?
Girls are so demented with the exploitation imposed upon them by their mothers, it's utterly horrifying. This isn't my opinion. 95% of RAPE happens for a reason and that reason is called Religion. Most girls will never ask you for help. They will just expect you to know you're good-looking enough for them to be attracted to; in which case, of course they want your help! Duh. But if they're not interested in fucking you, of course your assistance would make you a filthy creep. Duh! None of this will be communicated to you, so of course the result is?
Sane people do nothing, and all they are left with are creeps.
If you wait to be asked for help, you almost can't go wrong unless it's a no-brainer emergency like a toddler driven over by a van. 2 years old, body crushed, still moving though. And Chinese bloggers have the nerve to suggest that those who passed her tiny body feared litigation? Something stinks. There's no logic there that I can detect.
I'm getting more and more pissed off about this because this is the Reality that happens all over the world, constantly; and everyone ignores it and the only reason this child is getting a lot of play is because you're all horrifying all of the time. And this video proves it. So people who are horrifying all of the time, are naturally horrified. No one can explain it except the people who understand perfectly what's happening.
It's called Reality. The toddler has no value to narcissists, who look at everything via projection of estimated value in relation to them. You will walk past toddlers hit by cars. You will pretend you don't see the child exploitation all around you. You couldn't care less if Mai at 14 became the victims of creeps. All you care about is your own insanity.
You like to pretend you're a good person, so these videos shock - just shock! - you. It's so sick. A pretty girl in a nightclub will be bothered by creeps 100-200 times a night, because they want to fuck her. That's her 'value' to them. The Chinese toddler? No value to assisting her. Call an ambulance? Bah. Too much effort. No value. Mai at 14? Pity she's not a little older, so you could fuck her. No value.
Three years later, toddlers would kill each other fighting over her. She'll have value in the moment, for toddlers who live in the moment. This moment? You can't be fucked. No value.
It's all about you. And ironically, the joke -of your insanity- is brutally played on you.
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BUT do you see what happened right there? It's insideous, this christian "giving" thing that they do.
The awkwardness could never be described fully, and it's just sick because we are taught that it is RUDE to say no when a person is trying to give you something. Ironically enough, who told that person it's ok to give without being asked in the first place???
Exactly.
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Back to the church losing influence- they invented Jesus. Just so perfect....people read the old testament, see naughty things, feel guilty because they like naughty things, invent Jesus for them to cry to and seek forgiveness from. Literally, that's it. And if the person isn't already trapped by guilt from liking naughty things, let's lay this on nice and thick here- GOD DIED FOR YOU.
huh? GOD DIED HE SENT HIS ONLY SON (who is also Him) TO EARTH TO DIE FOR YOUR SINS!!!!
Now you're coming home full circle impressively, on the horror of the unsolicited giving of Christians.
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How could God kill Himself? This happened so people could sin and still get into heaven? Wait wait- this sounds like something I have heard before....Oh yeah, Jesus died on the cross to save His believers
Actually, it's far sicker. Jesus died for the SINS of all humanity.
And see what they've done with their gift? Instantly asserted that humans are predestined to sin. How fucking rude!
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Religion is a fucking headshot right to the dome of humanity.
It's a double-tap, actually. They stun you with their horror, corrupting and terrifying and insane. Every single verse in the OT. None of it real; or at least it wouldn't be, if it wasn't all imposed onto impressionable minds.
They shock you with their horror, then they take you out with the headshot.
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How to deal with personal problems I am still trying to figure out....
At least you will have a chance now.
You cannot deal with the insanity, until you can see their angles.
I've had many a drunken Friday and Saturday nights stopping by the Jack in the Box she parked her RV at in her last ride. The place is money for a 4am shake and burger, sometimes curly fries too. It's not surprising at all that the police force here shot an old lady.
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LISTEN while youre busy driving your cocaine submarine, i was out here defending the idea that all star survivor is better against scooter who thinks its a bad idea, JESUS CHRIST YOUR JIMMERY KNOWS NO BOUNDS
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But whatever, yes I can be a huge canadian faggot and you can be terrible yourself but theres no reason we shouldnt be able to co-exist at the very least, ya feelz me??
I do not even want to get started on the sickening violence and abuse in the bible, the way it demeans women, how it's insulting to anyone with a sliver of intelligence (shit God BERATES adam for eating of the tree of knowledge! ugh...) it's literally intended to make a person sick and needing to heal. IT MAKES YOU SICK FOR FUCKS SAKE. DON'T BELIEVE ME TRY READING THE BLASTED THING.
YES ROFL. THE SHEER FUCKING EVIL MAKES YOU SCREAM OUT IN PAIN AND HORROR. It just doesn't matter how old you are. If you read the Bible seriously, you will scream in horror at the insidious horror; in every single verse.
Their gall is...I don't have the words for their gall.
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I'd say there is a good chance there will be some compelling arguments as I never befriend stupid people.
No there won't be. Psychologically prepare for the horror of the implications of that fact.
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What he shows is a very scary truth NO ONE dares talk about- anyone who reads the bible should literally flee from it, but then there's the issue of how it's corrupting children all around the world, how it's forcibly given to people, spreading the sickness of shame and guilt.
The implications of the reality of what they've pulled off with that book of horror is...life-threatening.
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Someone is going to have to answer for all that corruption someday, that's a fact.
Nah they won't. They'll all be dead by the time humans finally emerge from the cocoon of religious exploitation. They corrupted the link between a mother and a child's early emotional development. Game over.
What are the solutions? There isn't any. Universal temporary sterilisation? Never gonna happen. Game over.
Except, of course; it won't be. The mentally retarded emotional Toddlers breed and breed and it's all too much. The horror.
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The internal turmoil I suffer now goes like this- Having this new perspective, can I or do I still believe in Jesus Christ? The answer is complex, and the truth is I do not honestly know (doubtful anyone does really)
Did the people who created the most horrifyingly brilliant manual to MAKE children insane, simply misrepresent Jesus of Nazareth?
Read the New Testament and you'll realise Jesus was either misquoted 95% of the time or he was 95% SHEER evil (or so stupid he might as well have been). Read Matthew 19. If that's Jesus Christ speaking, he's PURE evil. If they misquoted him 95% of the time, it makes no sense to pretend he had a clue when the person you know (JC of the Holy Bible) did not have a clue how to be sane.
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The argument can go both ways- either Jesus was invented to help control people through genius mental games (mostly hinging on guilt and/or shame in some fashion) or the whackyness of the bible is intended to sound silly to test one's faith.
ROFL the Christian obsession with testing faith. Irrefutably illogical. Ludicrously insane. Painfully obvious. It's what they tell you when you're like "whoa. why did my children need to die."
God needed to test your faith.
Why? What kind of sicko tests what they already know.
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If you believe in Him, you believe, straight up. No amount of mumbo jumbo could ever dissuade you from your core belief, it should be unshakeable.
What kind of imprinted insanity is this? There is nothing I believe that cannot be instantly altered via logical proof or convincing evidence. You could convince me my name was "Celia" and that I was a pole-vaulting chicken from the 28th century if you made a convincing-enough case.
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For good measure let's even sprinkly in some of pascals wager, which states essentially it is illogical to gamble against faith as it is a zero sum wager.
I urinate on Pascal. He was a fucking moron. I was about to launch into a demolition job on the demented 'logic' in Pascal's bullet-hole ridden wager, but the thought struck me that someone would have done it already; likely far better than I could. And I was right.
If you gamble on faith and win, you win everything, if you lose, you lose nothing (having lived a good life anyway) whereas the atheist is gambling to win nothing whatsoever etc etc. Human psychology is really quite fascinating.
This is not psychology; Pascal's wager is (butchered) game theory.
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I am still seeking truth and probably always will, as I encourage others to do. Life is too short to stumble through it with your eyes shut, that's for certain.
One of my heroes said something very similar before he tried to do a very heroic thing.
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I believe that any religion that is not used as a tool to enrich and empower oneself, instead becomes an anchor; a ball and chain; or worse yet, a cage of fear, that stunts, hinders and entraps the poor soul who originally thought to use it as some kind of life-saver.
I’m learning that the destination is not nearly as important as the journey, but the "truth", as I see it, is important to me. Even though I may never completely find it, I will probably always be searching for it. I don’t think that’s a bad thing. In fact, I think if more people were "searching for the truth" instead of "proclaiming it", I think the world would be a much nicer, friendlier, and safer place to live.
I actually happen to know the Truth, but I'm merely the freak product of statistical outliers stacked one on top of another. One of those outliers was this guy's mother's need to latch onto someone very evil, named David Berg.
Ricky Rodriguez wrote the above before he became a hero. He didn't manage to do what he was trying to do but it wasn't his fault so much as others who didn't help him; and were in the position to.
He died heroically, for Humanity; and this is the smear job CNN did on him. Anderson Cooper, no less; that wonderfully corrupted moral relativist.
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