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Old 07-04-2012, 06:10 AM   #11
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you nerds kept going on and on about chrome so i downloaded it and it sucks bro
i only keep using it so i dont lose street cred

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Old 07-04-2012, 06:20 AM   #12
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the ape is plenty capable of knuckling down

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Old 07-04-2012, 06:24 AM   #13
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i only keep using it so i dont lose street cred

Chrome is by far the best browser, name one better?
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:30 AM   #14
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i meant when you walk mike, when you walk

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it's called knuckle-walking all the cool kids in school are doing it these days
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Just an hour ago I ran this by my mother, she replies "Oh yeah, I heard...something about that. That facebook is doing something weird"

I explain what exactly is going on, her response "oh well, i don't log in to facebook from my phone, I'm not worried about it"

The fuck? How can someone miss the damned point by so much? Anyone with common sense would read the article Scuter posted and want NOTHING to do with facebook for the rest of his or her life.

As I did, last october....

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Old 07-04-2012, 02:21 PM   #18
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im pretty sure im being truman showed yall

You motherfuckers would be so bored if I was Truman. Your nigger faults for not writing me better love interest scripts imo.

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scoots magoots is a robot from the future

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thats why his electronics dont work its because the computer chips in his head mess with the signal

Not possible. I never had a computer problem in my life until I started writing about child exploitation and emotional manipulation in early 2010.

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The clincher for me was when I read the air force had a small army of fake people who are bots that go around befriending people and acting/speaking like they are from whatever area they claim and try to network around, collecting information on everyone they come in contact with.

Bots? Do you mean dupes?

What possible motive could there be for this but to fool imbeciles into forgetting the fact that the US government has ALL your Facebook data. Stop kidding yourself. If it goes online, they have it. You have no idea about their technological capacities because they keep that shit hidden from you on a Need to Know basis.

And for all you know, everyone could be answerable to the Vatican. In fact, I'm yet to hear a logical case made for why the Treaty of Westphalia (the creation not of nation-states but of illusions which were answerable to the Holy Roman Emperor, by LAW) has silently been annulled as Law.

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Facebook acknowledged this, people didn't care. I get laughed at by my friends for even mentioning it, like how could I be upset, what do I have to hide?

What is it with you and FAILURE TO PROVIDE VERIFICATION? Huh? Are you malfunctioning? Do you know how moronic it is to make a statement like this and not provide the link?

Provide the fucking link. Not in the future. Provide the links to your bullshit now.

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The fuck is wrong with people? It's not about whether you are a bad person or not, it's about YOUR FUCKING PRIVACY and not being ok with the government trampling all over our damned rights by doing CREEPY CREEPY SHIT. SHIT LIKE HAVING AN ARMY OF FAKE HUMAN BEINGS ON FACEBOOK COLLECTING DATA AND CHANGING YOUR CONTACTS IN YOUR CELL PHONE, YA KNOW

Changing the emails in your account is fucked up but makes perfect commercial sense.

An army of fake? (what does that mean?) human beings (is there such a thing) on Facebook collecting data they can pull from a server with some computer clicks makes no fucking sense. Why are you asserting something like this without verification?

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AM I THE ONLY SANE PERSON IN THIS GODFORSAKEN WORLD??????

You've regressed a little of late, but you have a long way to go either way.

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you nerds kept going on and on about chrome so i downloaded it and it sucks bro
i only keep using it so i dont lose street cred

It's nothing like it used to be.

I don't fucking like it how they use Apple's and Windows Certificates. If Firefox can use their own, why are Google using the operating system's?

So many creepy unknowns that are commercial-in-confidence. Which is another way of saying "we're fucking you and we don't want you to know about it". The competitors are all in cahoots with each other. It's so insulting.

INTEL invents(?) SDDs and suddenly every competitor in the world is selling SDDs? How does this make sense? Aren't these secrets 'proprietary'? Vomit.

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Just an hour ago I ran this by my mother, she replies "Oh yeah, I heard...something about that. That facebook is doing something weird"

I explain what exactly is going on, her response "oh well, i don't log in to facebook from my phone, I'm not worried about it"

The fuck? How can someone miss the damned point by so much? Anyone with common sense would read the article Scuter posted and want NOTHING to do with facebook for the rest of his or her life.

She's not worried about it. You're yet to even explain why you left Facebook in October, which allows me to know you left for a different, unrelated reason altogether and you're using this as validation of your decision or something retarded like that. Because I have a mind, I can understand these things. You should stop with all this nonsense.

You probably had no reason to leave Facebook. You're not exactly someone the creeps have a lot of value in keeping tabs on. You're kind of representative of their engine room, or at least, you always have been.

Produce something that verifies your concerns otherwise your raving lunacy gets embarrassing for legitimately concerned individuals, who are censored by Facebook and locked out of their account for weeks on end being told they forgot the password they've entered 1000 times successfully and something's wrong with the SMS system, all the password SMSs lost in the towers or something. Google was sending me SMSs just fine, I pointed out to Facebook before simultaneously realising I could backdoor my way in with my Gmail password (functionality I think they've closed up since).

Produce verification. Or shut the hell up with your lunacy.



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I left facebook specifically because #1 they claim all rights to any media uploaded to their site #2 they acknowledge allowing the military to operate robots/computer programs that pretend to be people you know

I find both creepy in the fullest. Let's add the final salt to my facebook wound- it seems to kill actual human communication.

I am sorry but chatting on facebook is pathetic and should never take the place of real actual communication- yet it does, all the time, for lots and lots of people. It is slowly eroding human communication, and I fucking hate it.

Scuter you are not always right nor can you always "see the unseen" ok? Lighten up.

Oh and I forgot the rampant malware one can easily find on that site. UGH
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since scuter will accuse me of being a liar, without actually googling anything himself

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/1...irtual-people/


Revealed: Air Force ordered software to manage army of fake virtual people

These days, with Facebook and Twitter and social media galore, it can be increasingly hard to tell who your “friends” are.

But after this, Internet users would be well advised to ask another question entirely: Are my “friends” even real people?


In the continuing saga of data security firm HBGary, a new caveat has come to light: not only did they plot to help destroy secrets outlet WikiLeaks and discredit progressive bloggers, they also crafted detailed proposals for software that manages online “personas,” allowing a single human to assume the identities of as many fake people as they’d like.

The revelation was among those contained in the company’s emails, which were dumped onto bittorrent networks after hackers with cyber protest group “Anonymous” broke into their systems.

In another document unearthed by “Anonymous,” one of HBGary’s employees also mentioned gaming geolocation services to make it appear as though selected fake persons were at actual events.

“There are a variety of social media tricks we can use to add a level of realness to all fictitious personas,” it said.

Government involvement

Eerie as that may be, more perplexing, however, is a federal contract (PDF) from the 6th Contracting Squadron at MacDill Air Force Base, located south of Tampa, Florida, that solicits providers of “persona management software.”

Update: The contract has since been taken off FBO.gov. The link above has been updated.

While there are certainly legitimate applications for such software, such as managing multiple “official” social media accounts from a single input, the more nefarious potential is clear.

Unfortunately, the Air Force’s contract description doesn’t help dispel suspicions. As the text explains, the software would require licenses for 50 users with 10 personas each, for a total of 500. These personas would have to

be “replete with background , history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographacilly consistent.”

It continues, noting the need for secure virtual private networks that randomize the operator’s Internet protocol (IP) address, making it impossible to detect that it’s a single person orchestrating all these posts. Another entry calls for static IP address management for each persona, making it appear as though each fake person was consistently accessing from the same computer each time.

The contract also sought methods to anonymously establish virtual private servers with private hosting firms in specific geographic locations. This would allow that server’s “geosite” to be integrated with their social media profiles, effectively gaming geolocation services.

The Air Force added that the “place of performance” for the contract would be at MacDill Air Force Base, along with Kabul, Afghanistan and Baghdad. The contract was offered on June 22, 2010.

It was not clear exactly what the Air Force was doing with this software, or even if it had been procured.

Manufacturing consent

Though many questions remain about how the military would apply such technology, the reasonable fear should be perfectly clear. “Persona management software” can be used to manipulate public opinion on key information, such as news reports. An unlimited number of virtual “people” could be marshaled by only a few real individuals, empowering them to create the illusion of consensus.

You could call it a virtual flash mob, or a digital “Brooks Brothers Riot,” so to speak: compelling, but not nearly as spontaneous as it appears.

That’s precisely what got DailyKos blogger Happy Rockefeller in a snit: the potential for military-run armies of fake people manipulating and, in some cases, even manufacturing the appearance of public opinion.

“I don’t know about you, but it matters to me what fellow progressives think,” the blogger wrote. “I consider all views. And if there appears to be a consensus that some reporter isn’t credible, for example, or some candidate for congress in another state can’t be trusted, I won’t base my entire judgment on it, but it carries some weight.

“That’s me. I believe there are many people though who will base their judgment on rumors and mob attacks. And for those people, a fake mob can be really effective.”

It was Rockefeller who was first to highlight the Air Force’s “persona” contract, which was available on a public website.

A call to MacDill Air Force Base, requesting an explanation of the contract and what this software might be used for, was answered by a public affairs officer who promised a call-back. No reply was received at time of this story’s publication.

Other e-mails circulated by HBGary’s CEO illuminate highly personal data about critics of the US Chamber of Commerce, including detailed information about their spouses and children, as well as their locations and professional links. The firm, it was revealed, was just one part of a group called “Team Themis,” tasked by the Chamber to come up with strategies for responding to progressive bloggers and others.

“Team Themis” also included a proposal to use malware hacks against progressive organizations, and the submission of fake documents in an effort to discredit established groups.

HBGary was also behind a plot by Bank of America to destroy WikiLeaks’ technology platform, other emails revealed. The company was humiliated by members of “Anonymous” after CEO Aaron Barr bragged that he’d “infiltrated” the group.

A request for comment emailed to HBGary did not receive a reply.

Update: HBGary Federal among bidders

A list of interested vendors responding to the Air Force contract for “persona management software” included HBGary subsideary HBGary Federal, further analysis of a government website has revealed.

Other companies that offered their services included Global Business Solutions and Associates LLC, Uk Plus Logistics, Ltd., NevinTelecom, Bunker Communications and Planmatrix LLC.
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