Not that it matters but they actually rejected WL towards the end of last week.
I am not a fan of Assange, I have never been a fan of his, and Obama would have earned a tremendous measure of respect with me if he had drone struck him off the face of the earth before he had the chance to publish the first batch of cables.
Anonymous are young and frankly a bit romantic to the point of naive in their politics. Assange was the worst type of anarchist; the type in it for himself. I remain frustrated that it took Anonymous this long to recognize it but I applaud them for having the courage to do their about face.
I think he (Assange) started out on the right track, and got in over his head before all hell broke loose with Bradley Manning etc
I also think he is being accused of sexual crimes he didn't commit
I think this man has been held captive and his business model stifled. It's not even about Julian Assange anymore imo
Not sure if you read the statement(s) from Anonymous today. They claim that Wikileaks 'sold out' (moreless) I disagree
I do think that the momentum of this movement for internet purity is being derailed. Assange is only a figurehead of the movement
the establishment is winning
the fact that Anonymous is backing off and distancing themselves from Wikileaks is not a good sign imo
I don't understand why Wiki is imposing a mandatory donation though.
I read the statement in full.
Wikileaks forcing mandatory 'donations' is bad business. seems like they have less credibility now if browsing certain files requires a payment.
American foreign policy cannot be implemented transparently.
Btw neither can anyone elses.
Anyone seeking to undermine America's capacity to perform diplomacy securely does not have your best interests in mind, sorry to break it to you.
Romney is not a statesman, hes a Mormon, and as such he will never be taken seriously on the global stage. This makes him bad for America, and by extension bad for the global economy.
Obama also suffers from this because hes a god awful statesman as well, but despite his fundamental lack of sophistication and political dexterity, he remains a lesser evil by far than Romney.
But yeah by all means, have another drink and spout off some more neo-liberal drivel about how America should dismantle its security apparatus because you're somehow "above it".
he leaked cables that showed the world how corrupt this war effort is
Tine I'm shocked you aren't applauding that gesture
I don't get how he is a 'traitor'.
I think he was a pissed off soldier who decided to man-up and sacrifice his career for leaking information that could make a real impact on foreign policy
I'm so confused how you see these guys as criminals
First off, I apologize for being frosty with you. Im terribly tired of people who'se world is the size of a fucking postage stamp raging against the very things that keep them alive. Not that I lump you in that category, its just a factor.
Second off, the statement that leaking cables is somehow good for the national interests I decry as false.
This is an unimaginably hostile world. Diplomacy is something very different than what the dictionary tells us.
Stability is all that matters; stability yields controlled growth and the ability to decide what policies are implemented to promote it.
Blood must be spilled, often actually, to maintain that stability.
You say the war was corrupt. I say we need the Baghdad embassy as a secondary middle eastern intelligence source in case Israel gets glassed by Iran. To me, there is no corruption whatsoever. Its rather straight forward actually.
And yes, I regret that Iraqis died to achieve that end. But Iraqis died under Saddam as well, of course.
But in my mind I weigh their loss on one side of the scale, and on the other I weigh the benefits, and Im comfortable with the equity.
Perhaps you are not. That's fine of course, who am I to question your morals?
But know this; to degrade the American security machine may seem "punk as shit" but the people its working so hard to subvert are misanthropic cavemen who sincerely believe they can murder with impunity and be rewarded with virgins and lucre in The Great Beyond.
Im comfortable supporting Team America given who the opposition consists of, and I support without reservation the aggressive sanctioning of those who would undermine that cause.
American foreign policy cannot be implemented transparently.
Btw neither can anyone elses.
Anyone seeking to undermine America's capacity to perform diplomacy securely does not have your best interests in mind, sorry to break it to you.
Romney is not a statesman, hes a Mormon, and as such he will never be taken seriously on the global stage. This makes him bad for America, and by extension bad for the global economy.
Obama also suffers from this because hes a god awful statesman as well, but despite his fundamental lack of sophistication and political dexterity, he remains a lesser evil by far than Romney.
But yeah by all means, have another drink and spout off some more neo-liberal drivel about how America should dismantle its security apparatus because you're somehow "above it".
Hmmmm
OK
I don't recall chosing an affiliation to either party
I want to stick to the subject matter of the last few posts, not declaring my candidacy to either of the lesser of 2 evils.
I'm surprised that you are badmouthing Anonymous and Julian Assange.
My understanding is that both are promoting the liberation of information. Until recently.
as of today, Anonymous has yanked their support for Wikileaks because of javascript designed to force 'donations'
I'm not clear why you are so opposed to the idea of shared information on the net
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