whats up with the hostility brag? soda machine at 7-11 soda station ran out of carbonation and forced you to drink from plastic like the rest of us unclean heathens?
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Originally Posted by Mista Cobalina
Nat Sherman's are better than Dunhill's in every conceivable way
Quoted for Scooter. Give Nat's a try, just two packs, and I swear the next Dunhill you light up you will reflexively spit onto the ground. I literally did exactly that, as I walked back into my local head shop and exchanged the disgusting things for another pack of my beloved Nat Naturals.
So Vaugn banned luigi? Two paragraphs into the first post of his I read I was impressed.
VAUGN EXPLAIN YOURSELF PLEASE
It was a filthy dirty business where I alone* stood for sanity against the murderous bloodlust which had infected our sleepy little forum. Uige had decided to make a political statement, passive resistance if you will, to test the resolve of those who cried out against The Chin so many decades ago. The premise, as I understand it, was "are we free, or do we just want to censor our way?"
It was a fair question, because of course as it turned out, we were not free. And Uige was gone and so I stood alone*. They've been ganging up on me ever since.
* It is not beyond the limits of reason to accept that there may have been others, bearded and so forth. But for all intents and purposes, a lot of fat good we did. Uige was bundled out by insanity, but they will keep. They will keep.
As for the running of Luigi off, here is what happened, mike. He was posting autoplays in every thread. It was the most toxic kind of spamming, that was being done purposefully to make reading IST/Skatz annoying. We asked him and asked him and begged him to please stop doing it in every thread, but he kept doing it, and called us all terrible and told us how much he hated it here and hated us all. And I snapped and lost my temper I said some really mean things to him and basically told him to fuck off and don't let the door hit him on the way out. And I really regret that, because he's one of my all time favorite posters. He was never banned, and his posts weren't censored. Gare did kick him out of ist, and we disabled autoplay so his videos wouldn't just automatically spam every thread and he never came back. I wish he would come back, because I miss him alot. IST is not the same without him.
It was a filthy dirty business where I alone* stood for sanity against the murderous bloodlust which had infected our sleepy little forum. Uige had decided to make a political statement, passive resistance if you will, to test the resolve of those who cried out against The Chin so many decades ago. The premise, as I understand it, was "are we free, or do we just want to censor our way?"
It was a fair question, because of course as it turned out, we were not free. And Uige was gone and so I stood alone*. They've been ganging up on me ever since.
* It is not beyond the limits of reason to accept that there may have been others, bearded and so forth. But for all intents and purposes, a lot of fat good we did. Uige was bundled out by insanity, but they will keep. They will keep.
The timeless debate- are we free or are we not? Well the correct answer is technically neither, the truth lay in shades of gray, but it takes experience to know that.
I respect you for sticking with your guns and despite losing luigi (who may come back you never know) you can still beat your chest, chin held high, stiffest upper lip and all, knowing you stood your ground on a moral and principle alone. It's rare to find anyone willing to stand alone for what they believe in, props to you (and Tine apparently).
Given the circumstances, luigi wasn't what you lost, the forums contingency post insurrection what what you gained, his sacrifice was a casualty by the wayside. I would have had to stand against you unfortunately and not because I am against free speech, my beliefs are quite to the contrary, but when it comes down to it, luigi did it to himself and his loss to you and the forum is his own doing.
Luke 4:12 "And Jesus answering said unto him, It is said, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." Thou shalt not tempt God, that about sums it up as far as I'm concerned. The forum is fun and is hands off by declaration of the ruling class, "uncensored" right? But it was never REALLY uncensored, when you think about it. If some sicko shows up one day with cp or mass pm's all the userbase wanting to stalk them or worse, maybe outright wants to talk about the best way to kill a senator or something, by no stretch of the imagination would anyone expect you to stick to your guns and say "Listen people, that man there, dressed like member of the KKK, that man may stay and say what he wants to, when we advertise as uncensored we've got to really MEAN IT!!! I will not stand against his right to free speech, even if he openly just called for everyone to join him tomorrow in attempting to kill the president. What a brave man, good luck to you. So anyway, while I have your attention, I've got tea on for when the secret service kicks in my door tonight how about the rest of you guys? Who has plans hmm? I just got wor-Cobson says he has smores people smores!! Lucky agents whoever kicks in his door eh haha!! On second thought, I'm making smores too!! Going to be a long night, btw I hope you all washed your floors, believe me when you've spent the last 4 hours of your life hogtied and face down on the floor, you will really regret not taking 20 seconds to mop before hand."
Of course not, any sane mature reasonable person knows better (hell even partially sane and more or less immature people like myself know better) thus if any member comes forward to test the status quo, let them go. Otherwise you empower any jerk to simply make an ass of himself and make the forum miserable until he gets tired of being an idiot and probably leaves anyway. You can't help people who are otherwise intelligent when they do something so stupid. You don't tease God, He claims to be able to do anything at any moment doesn't mean you have a right to jump off a building without a parachute and say "Well God here's your shot buddy! Better save me or else my death is on your hands!"
No, your death would be on your own hands, as was luigi's. Let his good works live on in memory, but he drew his line in the sand AGAINST you fwiw. Better off without him IMO, wild cards always mount a power struggle at some point. Jewdonk center of the universe types and such, it's just a scorpion being a scorpion. He never sad he WANTED to sting his friend the frog or that he didn't regret it, just that he had to. And thus he cried whilst watching his beloved friend the frog slink away into the churning river, he cried real tears, but a dead friend lay testimony to his underlying nature just the same.
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Originally Posted by Mista Cobalina
Nat Sherman's are better than Dunhill's in every conceivable way
Quoted for Scooter. Give Nat's a try, just two packs, and I swear the next Dunhill you light up you will reflexively spit onto the ground. I literally did exactly that, as I walked back into my local head shop and exchanged the disgusting things for another pack of my beloved Nat Naturals.
As for the running of Luigi off, here is what happened, mike. He was posting autoplays in every thread. It was the most toxic kind of spamming, that was being done purposefully to make reading IST/Skatz annoying. We asked him and asked him and begged him to please stop doing it in every thread, but he kept doing it, and called us all terrible and told us how much he hated it here and hated us all. And I snapped and lost my temper I said some really mean things to him and basically told him to fuck off and don't let the door hit him on the way out. And I really regret that, because he's one of my all time favorite posters. He was never banned, and his posts weren't censored. Gare did kick him out of ist, and we disabled autoplay so his videos wouldn't just automatically spam every thread and he never came back. I wish he would come back, because I miss him alot. IST is not the same without him.
Don't cry for the man, he jumped off the building on his own, no one pushed him off. His immaturity was his own undoing, it is what it is. Others have tried to angle against freedom of speech and what not, attempting to gain power or to whatever end they want. In truth though, they normally want to bring a forum down in the process, anytime a person stands alone against the standard rules just to spite the owners and they use the happiness of the people around them as a weapon you can be sure their intentions are NOT toward the good of that forum.
Marty is real good about that, remember how he rallied venom against it's admin serial fail? I doubt he thought of it himself, but regardless no one is ever so important that the forum suffers just to keep them around and likewise if you make a rule and ban a person in accordance with that rule then by default a martyr can only be made if you go back on your word. Serial was right to ban marty, he just didn't anticipate the forum coming to a halt with fingers all pointing toward him (except for the people that mattered, china myself JMM) and cracked under the pressure. Clever ploy, but either way, it's just an example of why, as an admin or moderator, you have to make rules that make sense and no matter what, stick to your guns. Show weakness and it's all over. Stay strong and the deserters will by and large come back. America loves her winners, always remember that.
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Originally Posted by Mista Cobalina
Nat Sherman's are better than Dunhill's in every conceivable way
Quoted for Scooter. Give Nat's a try, just two packs, and I swear the next Dunhill you light up you will reflexively spit onto the ground. I literally did exactly that, as I walked back into my local head shop and exchanged the disgusting things for another pack of my beloved Nat Naturals.
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