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Old 01-11-2013, 08:20 AM   #51
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I have never done meth in my life.

He's 100% speaking the truth, and neither have I for that matter. Almost no one currently addicted to whatever they are addicted to actually has tried real methamphetamine, that's the truth. Most of the crap on the streets (and by most I mean all or at least 98% of it) is a concoction of various compounds derived from pseudoephedrine, you've got ephedrine methylephedrine pseudoephedrine chloroephedrine and if the cook is a real moron iodophedrine and no doubt remnants of red phosphorous still lurking around. You might find snippets of actual high grade meth here and there, but it would never be enough to amount to anything. The "high" people think they're chasing is really just a combo of ephedrine and red phosphorus, some call it "pipe drunk" when they smoke too much at once and don't get high, they get a weird stoned feeling. That's because they've got nothing to get high from in the first place.

See, the problem is everyone reads these bullshit recipes online to make the crap and think to themselves "golly gee whiz! i could be makin sum meth myself georgie!" and thus without meaning to they subconsciously qualify street chemists as being capable of producing the real thing and never question the final product. This could not be further from the truth however (street chemists being capable of making the real thing) and synthesis of actual methamphetamine is too hard for your average chemist to produce. It logically follows of course that the chemists who are actually good enough typically can't get far enough away from that shit so addicts are left with crap, crap, and some more crap with tiny sparkling beacons of hope in every bag, amidst the crap, just to keep them coming back forever and ever.

If anyone cares, whatever you've read as being the recipe for meth I can assure you really is not, you can't shake and bake this shit up and a hick in a station wagon is far from qualified to produce anything worthwhile. Real pure methamphetamine is synthesized from reductively alkylating phenylpropanone and methylamine (and some other stuff not of interest to most of you) while street meth is basically ephedrine iodine and red phosphorus that, when reacted in sequence, produces something similar to meth, but usually pretty far off base. There is almost always iodine left over along with unreacted ephedrine and some leftover ephedrine bits and pieces that will get you high to a certain extent, but that's definitely not the real thing.
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Old 01-11-2013, 08:46 AM   #52
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:22 AM   #53
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He's 100% speaking the truth, and neither have I for that matter. Almost no one currently addicted to whatever they are addicted to actually has tried real methamphetamine, that's the truth. Most of the crap on the streets (and by most I mean all or at least 98% of it) is a concoction of various compounds derived from pseudoephedrine, you've got ephedrine methylephedrine pseudoephedrine chloroephedrine and if the cook is a real moron iodophedrine and no doubt remnants of red phosphorous still lurking around. You might find snippets of actual high grade meth here and there, but it would never be enough to amount to anything. The "high" people think they're chasing is really just a combo of ephedrine and red phosphorus, some call it "pipe drunk" when they smoke too much at once and don't get high, they get a weird stoned feeling. That's because they've got nothing to get high from in the first place.

See, the problem is everyone reads these bullshit recipes online to make the crap and think to themselves "golly gee whiz! i could be makin sum meth myself georgie!" and thus without meaning to they subconsciously qualify street chemists as being capable of producing the real thing and never question the final product. This could not be further from the truth however (street chemists being capable of making the real thing) and synthesis of actual methamphetamine is too hard for your average chemist to produce. It logically follows of course that the chemists who are actually good enough typically can't get far enough away from that shit so addicts are left with crap, crap, and some more crap with tiny sparkling beacons of hope in every bag, amidst the crap, just to keep them coming back forever and ever.

If anyone cares, whatever you've read as being the recipe for meth I can assure you really is not, you can't shake and bake this shit up and a hick in a station wagon is far from qualified to produce anything worthwhile. Real pure methamphetamine is synthesized from reductively alkylating phenylpropanone and methylamine (and some other stuff not of interest to most of you) while street meth is basically ephedrine iodine and red phosphorus that, when reacted in sequence, produces something similar to meth, but usually pretty far off base. There is almost always iodine left over along with unreacted ephedrine and some leftover ephedrine bits and pieces that will get you high to a certain extent, but that's definitely not the real thing.

Dude you are clueless. Methamphetamine is about the easiest drug one can make. Thats why it is such a problem. Yes the product might have all sorts of nasty shit in it, but there is still a lot of meth. The fact that you talk about "real pure meth" and say there is only one way to make it just shows how clueless you are. I've done meth once in my life, literally. I lost interest in chemistry ages ago, but I can assure you there are many ways people can make meth, and yes it is all methamphetamine. There are a lot of drugs that require a "real chemist" but meth ain't one of them you knob. Stop talking with authority on everything when you know so little.

If something is 30% meth and 70% byproduct of some synthesis, I still consider it meth. Just like every other drug. I can't remember ever taking any sort of "pure" drug, but meh.. jesus why am i responding.
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Old 01-11-2013, 12:02 PM   #54
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almost 100% of what you said mike, is false.

pretty much everything that hoser said
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:25 PM   #55
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:36 PM   #56
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so not believing nextlevelshit only did meth once. kid has all the anger issues associated with longtime meth use.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:37 PM   #57
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willie is too fat to be a meth head
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:53 PM   #58
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kids from oklahoma, hes an expert on meth heads

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Old 01-11-2013, 10:59 PM   #59
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not fat, from oklahoma, or a meth head

i was agreeing with hoser on this:
[IMG]Stop talking with authority on everything when you know so little.[/IMG]

and the fact that really shitty meth, is still meth

it's amazing the shit that 40ape will type to try to impress scooter

kid's crushing so hard, he's got those butterflies in his stomach every time he sees his name

i have a buddy who's a chemist (someone i know irl, not from the internet, mikey) and he said it would be laughably easy for him to make meth

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Old 01-11-2013, 11:29 PM   #60
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"Confirmed Fatass Oklahoma Meth-head"

glad i'm finally putting the thief image behind me

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  moving on up to a deeeeluxe apartment in the sky
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