Christian Compassion VII: The Cross of Jesus Going On Before.

[SkyNigger]

On the exchristian.net website there is a discussion about whether God hates women.

No one realises this impossibly brilliant but obvious insight into the Bible's 'misogyny' (but I am trying to arrest their ignorance as best I can) that it's not that religion was created by men who took advantage of women - hah! - that's what the men were tricked into thinking. But they didn't create Christianity or Judaism or Islam.

God doesn't like men and hate women. What a ludicrous trick to fall for. The Truth is obvious.

God hates everybody.

But this girl spoke about her tragic yet utterly generic life as a child victim of a Southern Baptist family of leeches.

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Originally Posted by New Out of Christian World

The Ten Commandments does not say, do not rape. Jesus never said, do not rape.

I went to christian home school in rural bible belt, had a southern baptist preacher grandfather, and other preachers in my family. My father was a Sunday school teacher, and a deacon. This is what I learned in my christian family.

A wife cannot refuse her husband sex ever; if her husband rapes her it is not rape.
Wives have to be obedient and submissive like a dog to its master, her husband.
If her husband beats her it is her fault for not being submissive enough.
A wife can not divorce her husband if he beats her because the all knowing christian bible god did not put in the bible one can get a divorce for anything other then adultery.
It just so happens that all but one of the christian men in my family beat their wives and of course it was the un submissive wife’s fault.

My own bible-thumping grandfather advised his daughter that she was not to divorce her southern baptist preacher husband for beating her because the only reason she can have a divorce says the misogynistic book of abuse the bible is adultery. My Christian grandfather was happy my aunt was doing bible gods will and being beat every day.

The godly christian men in my family’s loved talking about wifely submission and the demand that women belong barefoot and pregnant. Their two favorite things for women to be was submissive to their husbands and pregnant.
They were consumed with wifely submission and consistent pregnancy.

I was sexually abused as a child, If I had became pregnant the sadomasochistic christians would have happily arrived on the scene to force me to have another round of unwanted genital pain against my will, by way of forced birth to satisfy their pregnancy and birth fetish.

But they get it honest from the sadomasochistic god they choose to worship.
Genesis 3:16
“I will greatly multiply your grief and your suffering in pregnancy and the pangs of childbearing; with spasms of distress you will bring forth children. Yet your desire and cravings will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.”

~ Numbers 31:18
“But all the young girls who have not known a man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves.” The bible god telling soldiers to rape thirteen year old and twelve year old virgins.

Lot offered his virgin daughters up to be gang raped, bible christian god then saved Lot, but his wife who looked back at the home she raised her children in bible christian god killed her for that. So offering your two virgin daughters to be gang raped fabulous in bible christian gods eyes, looking at the home you raised your two daughters in gets you killed.

Being obedient to christian bible god is equivalent to being obedient to your pimp. And that is exactly what bible christian god did was pimp women and little girls to his massively insecure christian men the bible tells them every thing they want to hear. I would rather cut my wrist and die then ever live with a christian man again.

Bible christian god is a pro-rape, sadomasochistic, misogynistic, tyrant, and his followers his christians, are sick in the brain cretins. I should know I grew up with them.

It is easy for a man to come on here and talk negative about this article since it says all these degrading pro-rape, pro-men ruling over women things about women.
Christian men have always and will always love hearing themselves telling women what to think and do.
Christianity is a sick, sick religion that has hurt every woman I know.

It is perverted and abusive to teach little girls the odious bible, but christians want to indoctrinate in them early that they were created by sadomasochistic bible god to be baby-machines and servants for men.

The bible is the most hurtful, hateful, vile book to women, little girls, female rape victims, pregnant women, and pregnant little girls I have ever read.

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This Christian responded with the kind of Compassion I've been ranting about.

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Originally Posted by Compassionate Christian

What happened to you and in your family is wrong and very wrong. Arguing with you would not respect your grief and your justified anger. Saying "sorry" will not be enough, nevertheless I am deeply ashamed that people have used the Bible, God and christian faith to such ends. I share the name "christian" with them, and on that basis I apologize to for what you have suffered.

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So I ranted some more.

This is quite brilliant stuff, actually; though I'm certain none of you will appreciate the value of the insight.

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Be careful, Christian leech. You can quite fairly warrant being Rested In Peace, permanently; if you're going to be that insulting.

What a despicable reaction to evil you are partly responsible for. You validate the evil that rapes children by supporting it and pretending (outrageously) to be mysteriously oblivious to what your filthy religion is all about. Leeching, emotional manipulation, taking by force, killing, slaughtering, creating slaves out of children, creating slaves out of everyone, raping choirboys, raping girls, exploiting women, hating everyone, ownership, possession, property rights, hereditary insanity, love (the Christian version of which is worse than hate), endless deception & idiotic reverse psychology.

Lies, dirty lies and Christianity.

This is the Christian Strategy:

Phase 1. The Cross of Jesus goes on before.

"Love thy neighbour."
"Give and ye shall receive."
"Forsake all that ye hath."
"Blessed are the peacemakers."
"Judge not, lest ye be judged."
"Turn the other cheek."
"Forgive those who molest and exploit you."
"Be meek, and you'll inherit the earth."
"Easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than a rich man to go to Heaven."
"He who is without sin, cast the first stone."

Jesus died for your sins! Seems almost rude not to sin, doesn't it? Children are told their sinning is human, inevitable, predetermined. God literally made you a sinner, so it's okay to sin. But because He's a God of Love, He sent His child to die for His sins.

Why wasn't God crucified? For the same reason the child David fought Goliath. For the same reason CJ Lewis wrote the creepiest Christian allegories since the Bible (children on the battlefield again). For the same reason God kills children for their parents failure to Love him. And the grandchildren. And the great-grandchildren. God punishes four generations for the 'iniquity' of not loving him. I don't think God understands how love is supposed to work, or maybe he understands perfectly.

"Love is whatever there is to betray."
- le Carre

It's the greatest Confidence Trick played on humans since Christianity, but then of course, it's a construct of the Abrahamic sociopathic religions. Why would anyone love an all-powerful Being who's JEALOUS? That's pure emotional insanity, but then that's what the Holy Books are all about. God is also a demented Toddler that Moses could emotionally manipulate into changing his (timeless) mind by appealing to his obsession with 'public opinion'.

No Christian _actually_ buys this insanity. It's all a ludicrous Confidence Trick. If Phase 1 doesn't work...

Phase 2. Onward Christian Soldier, marching as to WAR.

But only when the Cross of Jesus went on before, to preach peace and forgiveness and make the insane case for handing over everything. If the Cross of Jesus is unsuccessful, cue Numbers chapter 31 sociopathic murderous slaughter and taking by force.

This isn't my 'opinion'. This is what Christians have done non-stop, throughout History. 150 million indigenous Americans willing to compromise with the Christian invaders; who signed treaties of peace with the self-declared intent to trick them prior to genocide; the Spanish Catholics and the Puritan Settlers were into hardcore slavery because that's what Christianity is all about (leeching).

Christian Compassion. The imposition of Christians smearing their unsolicited shame and pity onto those who do not need their protection, let alone a Protection Racket (women, midgets, children, minorities; anyone they can impose their unsolicited emotional corruption onto; they'll do it because - you know - "Do unto yourSelf what you would have others do unto you.")

Oh hang on, that's not right. Jesus Christ was one of the sleaziest creeps in history. My bad. He said "Do unto others..."

What a filthy creep.

Christian Compassion. The most insulting oxymoron of all. Christians charitably gave the natives of the Americas blankets laced with smallpox to wipe them out. They charitably stole an entire generation of Aboriginal children in Australia. They're still doing their 'charity' in the nation I grew up in, the most racist nation on the planet (but so 'multicultural'). They insult everyone with this endless unsolicited creepy 'caring' for their welfare; the direct result of which imprisons indigenous Australians at 8 x the rate. If you think Aborigines are eight times more 'naughty' than the rest of us who are 'nice', then you should be introduced to the guillotine and your parents should probably join you; along with every creepy Saint Nicholas who suffers little children to come unto them, jump up onto their lap and whisper lies to them in a brazen abuse of trust.

Clearly the ideal start to a childhood, but then this is a very religiously insane world.
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There is literally nothing as insulting as the sociopathic, unsolicited, imposition that Christian Compassion.

I'm surprised you didn't offer to "pray for her" as well.

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Christian Atrocities
Note: All figures according to contemporary (Christian) chroniclers. This list is woefully incomplete.

Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded. [DO30]
Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany. [WW223]
Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered. [DO235]
15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown. [DO30]
16th and 17th century. Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage. [SH99, 225]
First Crusade: 1095 on command of pope Urban II. [WW11-41]
Semlin/Hungary 6/24/1096 thousands slain. Wieselburg/Hungary 6/12/1096 thousands murdered. [WW23]
9/9/1096-9/26/1096 Nikaia, Xerigordon (then turkish), thousands respectively. [WW25-27]
Until Jan 1098 a total of 40 capital cities and 200 castles conquered (number of slain unknown) [WW30]
After 6/3/1098 Antiochia (then Turkish) conquered, between 10,000 and 60,000 slain.
6/28/1098 100,000 Turks (incl. women & children) killed. [WW32-35]
Here the Christians "did no other harm to the women found in [the enemy's] tents—save that they ran their lances through their bellies," according to Christian chronicler Fulcher of Chartres. [EC60]
Marra (Maraat an-numan) 12/11/1098 thousands killed. Because of the subsequent famine "the already stinking corpses of the enemies were eaten by the Christians" said chronicler Albert Aquensis. [WW36]
Jerusalem conquered 7/15/1099 more than 60,000 victims (jewish, muslim, men, women, children). [WW37-40]
The Archbishop of Tyre wrote: "It is reported that within the Temple enclosure alone about ten thousand infidels perished." [TG79]
Christian chronicler Eckehard of Aura noted that "even the following summer in all of palestine the air was polluted by the stench of decomposition". One million victims of the first crusade alone. [WW41]
Battle of Askalon, 8/12/1099. 200,000 heathens slaughtered "in the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ". [WW45]
Fourth crusade: 4/12/1204 Constantinople sacked, number of victims unknown, numerous thousands, many of them Christian. [WW141-148]
Rest of Crusades in less detail: until the fall of Akkon 1291 probably 20 million victims (in the Holy land and Arab/Turkish areas alone). [WW224]
Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims. [NC]
Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians. [DO29]
The Albigensians...viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control. [NC]
Pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209 ordered Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000. [WW179-181]
Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed. [WW181]
20 years of war followed until nearly all Cathars (probably half the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated. [WW183]
After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324. [WW183]
Estimated one million victims (Cathar heresy alone), [WW183]
Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many others. Most of these sects exterminated. Estimated at least hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World).
Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings. [DO28]
In the era of witch hunting (1484-1750) according to modern scholars several hundred thousand (about 80% female) burned at the stake or hanged. [WV]
15th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain. [DO30]
1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in (then Spanish) Netherlands. [DO31]
1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of Pope Pius V. [DO31]
17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers." [SH191]
17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany. [DO31-32]
The Bishop of Limoges (France) in 1010 had the cities' Jews, who would not convert to Christianity, expelled or killed. [DA453]
First Crusade: Thousands of Jews slaughtered 1096, maybe 12.000 total. [EJ]
1257, 1267: Jewish communities of London, Canterbury, Northampton, Lincoln, Cambridge, and others exterminated. [DO41]
1290 in Bohemian (Poland) allegedly 10,000 Jews killed. [DO41]
1337 Starting in Deggendorf/Germany a Jew-killing craze reaches 51 towns in Bavaria, Austria, Poland. [DO41]
1348 All Jews of Basel/Switzerland and Strasbourg/France (two thousand) burned. [DO41]
1349 In more than 350 towns in Germany all Jews murdered, mostly burned alive (in this one year more Jews were killed than Christians in 200 years of ancient Roman persecution of Christians). [DO42]
1389 In Prag 3,000 Jews were slaughtered. [DO42]
1391 Seville's Jews killed (Archbishop Martinez leading). 4,000 were slain, 25,000 sold as slaves. [DA454] Their identification was made easy by the brightly colored "badges of shame" that all Jews above the age of ten had been forced to wear.
1492: In the year Columbus set sail to conquer a New World, more than 150,000 Jews were expelled from Spain, many died on their way: 6/30/1492. [MM470-476]
1648 Chmielnitzki massacres: In Poland about 200,000 Jews were slain. [DO43]
Beginning with Columbus (a former slave trader and would-be Holy Crusader) the conquest of the New World began, as usual understood as a means to propagate Christianity.
In average two thirds of the native population were killed by colonist-imported smallpox before violence began. This was a great sign of "the marvelous goodness and providence of God" to the Christians of course, e.g. the Governor of the Massachusetts Bay Colony wrote in 1634, as "for the natives, they are near all dead of the smallpox, so as the Lord hath cleared our title to what we possess." [SH109,238]
On Hispaniola alone, on Columbus visits, the native population (Arawak), a rather harmless and happy people living on an island of abundant natural resources, a literal paradise, soon mourned 50,000 dead. [SH204]
The surviving Indians fell victim to rape, murder, enslavement and spanish raids.
The "island's population of about eight million people at the time of Columbus's arrival in 1492 already had declined by a third to a half before the year 1496 was out." Eventually all the island's natives were exterminated, so the Spaniards were "forced" to import slaves from other caribbean islands, who soon suffered the same fate. Thus "the Caribbean's millions of native people [were] thereby effectively liquidated in barely a quarter of a century". [SH72-73] "In less than the normal lifetime of a single human being, an entire culture of millions of people, thousands of years resident in their homeland, had been exterminated." [SH75]
Cortez, Pizarro, De Soto and hundreds of other spanish conquistadors likewise sacked southern and mesoamerican civilizations in the name of Christ (De Soto also sacked Florida).
"When the 16th century ended, some 200,000 Spaniards had moved to the Americas. By that time probably more than 60,000,000 natives were dead." [SH95]
Although none of the settlers would have survived winter without native help, they soon set out to expel and exterminate the Indians.
On the territory that is now Massachusetts the founding fathers of the colonies were committing genocide, in what has become known as the "Peqout War". The killers were New England Puritan Christians.
The puritan commander-in-charge John Mason after one massacre wrote: "And indeed such a dreadful Terror did the Almighty let fall upon their Spirits...Thus did the Lord judge among the Heathen, filling the Place with dead Bodies": men, women, children. [SH113-114]
So "the Lord was pleased to smite our Enemies in the hinder Parts, and to give us their land for an inheritance". [SH111]
Like today, lying was OK to Christians then. "Peace treaties were signed with every intention to violate them: when the Indians 'grow secure uppon (sic) the treatie', advised the Council of State in Virginia, 'we shall have the better Advantage both to surprise them, & cutt downe theire Corne'." [SH106]
In 1624 sixty heavily armed Englishmen cut down 800 defenseless Indian men, women and children. [SH107]
In a single massacre in "King Philip's War" of 1675 and 1676 some "600 Indians were destroyed." [SH115]
To summarize: Before the arrival of the English, the western Abenaki people in New Hampshire and Vermont had numbered 12,000. Less than half a century later about 250 remained alive - a destruction rate of 98%. The Pocumtuck people had numbered more than 18,000, fifty years later they were down to 920 - 95% destroyed. The Quiripi-Unquachog people had numbered about 30,000, fifty years later they were down to 1500 - 95% destroyed. The Massachusetts people had numbered at least 44,000, fifty years later barely 6000 were alive - 81% destroyed. [SH118] These are only a few examples of the multitude of tribes living before Christian colonists set their foot on the New World. All this was before the smallpox epidemics of 1677 and 1678 had occurred. And the carnage was not over then.
A total of maybe more than 150 million Indians (of both Americas) were destroyed in the period of 1500 to 1900, as an average two thirds by smallpox and other epidemics, that leaves some 50 million killed directly by violence, bad treatment and slavery.
Massacre of Sand Creek, Colorado 11/29/1864. Colonel John Chivington, a former Methodist minister ("I long to be wading in gore") had a Cheyenne village of about 600, mostly women and children, gunned down despite the chiefs' waving with a white flag: 400-500 killed.
From an eye-witness account: "There were some thirty or forty squaws collected in a hole for protection; they sent out a little girl about six years old with a white flag on a stick; she had not proceeded but a few steps when she was shot and killed. All the squaws in that hole were afterwards killed ..." [SH131]
By the 1860s, "in Hawai'i the Reverend Rufus Anderson surveyed the carnage that by then had reduced those islands' native population by 90 percent or more, and he declined to see it as tragedy."[SH244]
Nazi extermination camps in World War II were by no means the only ones in Europe at the time. In the years 1942-1943 also in Croatia existed numerous extermination camps, run by Catholic Ustasha under their dictator Ante Paveli, a practising Catholic and regular visitor to the then pope. There were even concentration camps exclusively for children!
In these camps - the most notorious was Jasenovac, headed by a Franciscan friar - orthodox-Christian serbians (and a substantial number of Jews) were murdered. Most of the victims were simply stabbed, slain or shot to death, the number of them being estimated between 300,000 and 600,000, in a rather tiny country. Many of the killers were Franciscan friars. The atrocities were appalling enough to induce bystanders of the Nazi "Sicherheitsdient der SS", watching, to complain about them to Hitler (who did not listen). The pope knew about these events and did nothing to prevent them. [MV]
In Vietnam, supposedly to fight communism, thousands of buddhist protesters and monks were imprisoned in "detention camps." It is estimated that during this period of terror (1955-1960) at least 24,000 were wounded - mostly in street riots - 80,000 people were executed, 275,000 had been detained or tortured, and about 500,000 were sent to concentration or detention camps. [MW76-89].
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[anatine]

NIGGAS KNOW THE TIME. SO REAL.

[Statutory Ape]

GODDAMNIT SCUTER

I HAVE HAD ABOUT ENOUGH

--ENOUGH--

OF YOUR INCESSANT BOTCHING OF THE GOOD WORD

OF LE CARRE

"Love is whatever there is left to betray"

[Statutory Ape]

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Originally Posted by sonatine

NIGGAS KNOW THE TIME. SO REAL.

NOT YET THEY DON'T

BUT SOON THEY WILL

NOT SOON ENOUGH, THOUGH